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What in the hell is wrong with medical billing?

Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:15 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28336 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:15 pm
Why does it seem in the last few yrs I’ve been inundated with medical bills? I have 3 kids between the ages of 4 and 12, but every visit any of us go to I seemingly pay a copay and still get these stupid bills? Some I’ll even go, they tell me nothing is owed and still end up dealing with this nonsense. I guess I need to start keeping records of all of this to make sure I’m not being double billed, but why can’t they get it right from go?
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3150 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:16 pm to
The issue isn’t with the doctors office or the billers, it’s your insurance carrier.
Posted by JPPT1974
East TN
Member since Aug 2018
77 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:17 pm to
Indeed over in insurance is the key!
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:18 pm to

Print a current EOB off your carrier site account or call to have one sent. Reconcile as you go.
Posted by LeGrosChat
Bangladesh
Member since Feb 2016
396 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:25 pm to
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The issue isn’t with the doctors office or the billers, it’s your insurance carrier.


The issue could just as easily be due to the doctor's billing.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30550 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:29 pm to
I have the same issue. And it takes so long for insurance to figure out what they’re paying that I lose track of everything and end up just paying whatever bills I get
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2875 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:31 pm to
Thank obama, pelosi, (we have to pass the bill to see what's in it), and traitor mccain (nah nah, thumbs down) for the mess you are dealing with.
Dishonorable mention to all the other POS congressturds who helped it along.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108735 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:32 pm to
I like how you can go to 1 hospital and end up with 683 different bills
Posted by Power-Dome
Member since Nov 2012
1111 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:33 pm to
I have to keep records and notes on all the bills I get. I call and ask what they are billing for and they don’t even know. I dont get and charges listed out, just a balance figure.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17040 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:34 pm to
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I seemingly pay a copay at all and still get these stupid bills?



Is this english?
Posted by Finnish
Member since Nov 2021
423 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:36 pm to
My wife had a Dr Appt in Nov and paid on site. I still got two separate bills from the same place with two different websites and return addresses to pay bills. If feels like medical billing is still operating in 1992.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 8:37 pm
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4011 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:39 pm to
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The issue could just as easily be due to the doctor's billing.


Correct. A very large number of bill issues/insurance not paying is because the doctor’s off medical coding and billing is using the wrong codes for procedures.

Sometimes it’s a simple as the doctor’s office using ICD-9 instead of ICD-10. When the insurance company sends it back because ICD-9 doesn’t give enough info, the doctor’s office handles it as a denial and sends the bill to the patient.

Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1154 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:43 pm to
I was a medical billing manager a long time ago. I didn't know jack shite about medical billing and really only got hired because I knew the general manager. I got paid handsomely and wrote off a lot of shite because, again, I didn't know what the frick I was doing. I made it just over a year and bounced before they found out all the shite I did and canned my arse.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28336 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:44 pm to
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And it takes so long for insurance to figure out what they’re paying that I lose track of everything and end up just paying whatever bills I get


That’s kind of where I am, but I’ll let them go 1 or 2 notices before even opening them up. Usually I just toss out with the junk mail. It’s aggravating bc I really don’t have time to check up on all of their crap. Most are so vague that you don’t know if you’re being billed for medical services or Tibetan hookers.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 8:46 pm
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45265 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:45 pm to
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but why can’t they get it right from go?


Hit my deductible then had to have wrist surgery in August
Said I had to pay 1600.00 when I got there
Got EOB in September showing total charges was 600.00
Called them & they confirmed credit & told me it would be mailed within 2 weeks
Called mid October, was told I was on list of refunds to be sent in November
Still don’t have my 1000.00 & all they say when I call is I’m on the refund list

I match up every EOB with my bills, they aren’t going to make it easy to get any overpayments back
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:48 pm to
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I guess I need to start keeping records of all of this

You do. They frick up all the time. I catch things multiple times a year.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:02 pm to
The entire system is broken
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6097 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:20 pm to
It's an overly complicated system is the most straightforward answer.

There's many different insurance carriers and within each carriers theres a variety of policies with different deductibles, Co pays, coinsurance etc. There's no way doctors offices to account for all of theses differences outside of collecting the known co pay for the visit.

On top of that, what's being done for the visit isn't known until after the visit. Yeah, you get the office visit charge(e&m) but if youre kid had vaccinations, maybe had a strep test, or labs etc. These are all separate codes(cpts)/charges that will get submitted to insurance that has to be figured out on the backend depending on your deductible(if you have or haven't met it), your coinsurance, and what the contracted rate the doctor, hospital, etc. Afterwhich you get a bill.

There's a reason why administrative costs of delivering Healthcare is one of the main reasons for our high Healthcare costs.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6966 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:31 pm to
it's failure by design
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:33 pm to
American Medical billing is a pandemic. Its the most disorganized system in the world.
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