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re: What has Elon Musk done to Twitter employees for them to hate him?

Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:01 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:01 am to
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I hope Elon announces that while no one is being fired, he's moving twitter headquarters to Birmingham.

Nah. Move that show to Moulton, Alabama in Lawrence County. That'll learn em!
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:08 am to
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What has Elon Musk done to Twitter employees for them to hate him?

As of now he hasn't done anything. The purchase isn't supposed to close until some unspecified time later this year.
Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:14 am to
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As of now he hasn't done anything.


Which makes all the progressives going batshit crazy even more impressive...or sad....
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:17 am to
Their echo chamber of censorship is being disassembled.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:24 am to
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if i remember correctly during the Tim Pool/Dorsey/Lawyer lady interview, he said they had banned numerous people for saying things like "ok dude (to a trans)" or "a man is not a woman." and she defended it by saying that they are reflecting societal norms.

Pool IMMEDIATELY had a stat that said that was an incorrect statement as trans acceptance was below 30% in 2016.


Thus why they hate Musk. His actions threaten to force them to face that their Twitter-verse echo chamber isn't an actual reflection of widely accepted (or even popular) thought and/or stances.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24834 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:24 am to
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msnbc


this guy pretty much explains it




This is the very reason why I never watch any news. This guys knows what he is saying, but he says it to pander to an audience for a pay check. The irony in all this is absolutely hilarious.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61881 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:28 am to
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What has Elon Musk done to Twitter employees for them to hate him?
What has he done for them to hate him so much?

They’re lashing out and calling him all kinds of names and criticisms.

For what?



He hasn't done anything explicitly other than loosely communicating that he intends to not censor based on opinion. That in itself isn't acceptable to the left, and Twitter is made up of a ton of leftist activists.

Implicitly however, people assume (rightfully, IMO) that he intends to uncover a ton of fraud and illegal activity that occurred. Today we found out that Twitter has been fraudulently overstating its users...presumably to inflate its stock price. That's a huge crime.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted by LeroyBrown
South Side Of Chicago
Member since Jul 2017
578 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:34 am to
He is a capitalist vs a left wing pinko commie socialist
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:59 am to
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As of now he hasn't done anything. The purchase isn't supposed to close until some unspecified time later this year.


so why the melt by the media and Twitter employees over it? explain it from a progressive POV for us.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:39 pm to
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The American left has controlled or made in roads into entertainment, mainstream media and news, social media and big tech, almost every bureaucratic facet of American government (the administrative state), churches, academia, K-12 schooling and most sectors of big business.

How?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:40 pm to
Because they fear a loss of control over suppressing conservative viewpoints.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:42 pm to
They know he's going to fire a lot of them. It's a bloated organization.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40875 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:12 pm to
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How?

When it comes to media of almost any kind, you achieve your ends through the tight control of information. The United States government doesn't need hardline authoritarian censorship, because the majority of our traditional news outlets are simply propaganda outlets for the establishment position on a host of issues. When you either self-censor by choice or present a one-sided narrative in framing an issue, force to an achieve an end isn't necessary. Combine this with the willingness of new media (specifically tech companies) to censor views deemed heretical, and it's plain to see how easy it is for narratives to be just as controlled here as they are in a dictatorship, while keeping the illusion of a free press alive.

This isn't even a right-wing talking point. Noam Chomsky described it much more eloquently than I ever could in Manufacturing Consent. I agree with his premise. As applied to the current situation, social media platforms, if truly platforms where all views and opinions are permitted, challenge the existing structure of how and from where we get news. This is extremely dangerous for people in power.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:14 pm to
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It's a bloated organization.


Bingo. Twitter needs a team to keep the lights on and sell advertising. Whatever the rest of these people are doing(censoring) is not value added.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:35 pm to
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How?



Are you asking me "how" as in "how was it accomplished" or as in "in what way is this true"?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:38 pm to
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When it comes to media of almost any kind, you achieve your ends through the tight control of information.

My question is, how does one side get all the tight control of information over the other?

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This isn't even a right-wing talking point. Noam Chomsky described it much more eloquently than I ever could in Manufacturing Consent.

I saw the documentary. Chomsky wasn't talking about "The American left" being the ones manufacturing the consent.
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applied to the current situation, social media platforms, if truly platforms where all views and opinions are permitted, challenge the existing structure of how and from where we get news. This is extremely dangerous for people in power.

You're typing a lot of words, but they don't make a whole lot of sense in terms of answering the question, how did the American Left gain control of basically all of our cultural institutions as Pettifogger suggests?

The news media.
Social media.
The entertainment industry.
Big Tech.
Churches.
K-PhD education.
Big Business.

These are the things Pettifogger implied the American left has controlled or made in roads into.

My question is how has the American left achieved all of that?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:40 pm to
How was it accomplished?

And how could the American right allow it to happen?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66352 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:43 pm to
At least as to Big Tech, Glenn Greenwald's theory is those companies actually wanted the internet wide open, but politicians have pressured them to censor and control. We discussed this on the poli board the other day -- I feel like after Trump got elected, that's when pressure ratcheted up to stop "misinformation."
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127761 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:46 pm to
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These are the things Pettifogger implied the American left has controlled or made in roads into.


Are you saying they haven't? A simple "yes they have" or "no, they haven't" will suffice.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:54 pm to
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how did the American Left gain control of basically all of our cultural institutions as Pettifogger suggests? The news media. Social media. The entertainment industry. Big Tech. Churches. K-PhD education. Big Business.


News Media, entertainment, and education were done via self selection and peer pressure. They don’t think they have a bias because they don’t talk to anyone other than other believers.

Tech and Social media attract younger and more radical people. These people think they’re saving the planet and fighting the good fight.

Big Business and to a lesser extent churches talk the talk to stop the other groups from boycotting them. They don’t believe it but have to play along.
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