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Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:10 am to JumpingTheShark
Unions and certain longshoremen.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:40 am to HerkFlyer
Neither did Franzese, he still won't implicate individuals he personally knew and what they did or did not do. However, an FBI agent has said that Franzese will give out information on things like processes, businesses that are doing "things". Since he was probably one of the smartest wise guys ever. His fuel tax scheme was a thing of genius. Made a lot of people a LOT of money.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:45 am to KiwiHead
RICO decimated the Five Families. The notorious hit men like Roy DeMeo, Tommy “Karate” Pitera and Anthony Casso are a thing of the past. DeMeo and his crew were responsible for over 200 murders.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:33 am to prplhze2000
The Pernas still have heavy weight clout. IYKYK
Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:40 am to JumpingTheShark
The mafia migrated into the federal government.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:42 am to West Seattle Dude
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DeMeo and his crew were responsible for over 200 murders.
Did a deep dive on DeMeo crew a few years ago. Wicked stuff.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:55 am to JumpingTheShark
They're in the olive oil business. Seriously.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:21 pm to JumpingTheShark
The Camorra (Naples/Campania) and the 'Ndrangheta (Calabria) are heavily involved in international drug trafficking and related money laundering. Another lucrative source of revenue is anything involving government funds, bidding on public projects, etc.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:44 pm to HerkFlyer
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Joey Merlino
Seems like a straight shooter in the videos I have seen. The worst is that John Alite guy. Most people say he’s full of shite and a few people vouch for him. Dude loves to talk about how he took baseball bats to people and describes the technique


Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:55 pm to JumpingTheShark
Like always. They’ve just grown with the times. Mire discreet and stronger with commercial logistics, police, court or some city/state officials on payroll.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:59 pm to KiwiHead
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His fuel tax scheme was a thing of genius.
It absolutely was.
Overall I think the mafia era was a good time. They policed their own and kept New York civil in a way. It’s a weird dichotomy.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:27 am to HerkFlyer
Eh, by the mid 1970s even they could not keep a lid on the crime surge. Places in the Bronx and Brooklyn were almost ungovernable. Daryl Cooper has an interesting series on NYC from the late 60's until about 1975 intersecting schools and mass migration from South to Northern cities in particular NYC
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:11 am to West Palm Tiger561
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A shell of its former self.
Pretty much nails it. With RICO being used by the Feds and long prison terms, it's easy to turn mob underlings into informants and the information they give is enough to reach all the way to the top and put the bosses away for life.
Who in their right mind wants to chance that kind of potential???
I have seen tons of true mob related shows on TV over the years and the amount of former mobsters in Witness Protection is unreal. And the sentences they receive for the crimes they admitted to is usually nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
Look at Sammy Gravano who was the main witness against John Gotti. He admitted to something like 19 murders he personally had a hand in and only got 5 years in jail before being paroled.
Or Frank Calibrese Jr. who testified against his own father and sent him away for life while he got a slap on the wrist for his testimony. He was tired of the life and trying to go legit and his own dad was shaking him and his partner down for protection money and the old man trying to take over the business. With dads like that, you don't need enemies.
Personally, I can't understand what attracts people to that lifestyle. They talk about being "Men of Honor" but in truth, they are ruthless cutthroats who will kill their own over money and power.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:16 am to gumbo2176
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Personally, I can't understand what attracts people to that lifestyle. They talk about being "Men of Honor" but in truth, they are ruthless cutthroats who will kill their own over money and power.
Yea people who talk about how they served a good function are crazy. They corrupted everything they could and terrorized anyone who got in their way.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:17 am to gumbo2176
Mikey Scars Di Leonardo is probably the best straight shooting former gangster on youtube. Former Gambino captain who turned informant. He is one of the few guys who doesn't spew self agrandizing bullahit and will not make shite up if he doesnt now 1st hand.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:34 pm to JumpingTheShark
the N'draghetta has managed to extend worldwide when historically it was seen as a non-threat.(the Calabrians) supposedly they marry in to South American cartel families or high level families in other areas of the world, a whole lot of Canadians acting like its 1930s NYC fighting over the French Connection lanes into Canada, a shell of its former self in NYC and America, and the Sicilian and Naples clans doing their thing in Europe and worldwide linked up with high level criminal operations in other areas of the world.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 3:51 pm to JumpingTheShark
A pathetic small-time remnant. Probably not much more than a few hoodrat grandsons of old mob names, dealing drugs and waiting to get caught and sent to prison.
The mid 20th century was their peak. Their start was in ethnic neighborhood street crime; Prohibition gave them a golden opportunity to engage in a business that makes more sense at scale (distribution of booze); from there as the country got richer, they were able to infiltrate labor unions and get control of hundreds of millions of dollars. They used stolen union money to finance Vegas.
They never would have gotten so big without J. Edgar Hoover looking the other way. He always claimed the Mafia did not exist, and loved to travel with his bachelor top assistant to field offices with nice weather or horse races- he loved to gamble. Make of that what you will.
But as Hoover faded away, and federal sentencing laws got tougher, the government got serious with the Mob. Government regulation of pensions and other big funds made it very hard to steal without detection, Mob prosecution or not. And the changing economy made it harder to extort. It's one thing to shake down half a dozen corner stores. Try that with Walgreens or Target and you won't get very far.
The mid 20th century was their peak. Their start was in ethnic neighborhood street crime; Prohibition gave them a golden opportunity to engage in a business that makes more sense at scale (distribution of booze); from there as the country got richer, they were able to infiltrate labor unions and get control of hundreds of millions of dollars. They used stolen union money to finance Vegas.
They never would have gotten so big without J. Edgar Hoover looking the other way. He always claimed the Mafia did not exist, and loved to travel with his bachelor top assistant to field offices with nice weather or horse races- he loved to gamble. Make of that what you will.
But as Hoover faded away, and federal sentencing laws got tougher, the government got serious with the Mob. Government regulation of pensions and other big funds made it very hard to steal without detection, Mob prosecution or not. And the changing economy made it harder to extort. It's one thing to shake down half a dozen corner stores. Try that with Walgreens or Target and you won't get very far.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 4:03 pm to JumpingTheShark
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but id have to think the feds are mostly focused on catching white supremacists now.
The feds are the mafia these days.
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