re: What do you people have against solar farms?

They don't do very well with hailstorms and hurricanes.

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Would you want a hog rendering plant next to your house?

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If my neighbor sold out to someone who built such a thing next to my house then I would move.

The fact is the technology just isn’t there yet. I’m fine with the government giving it a little nudge, but we’e way past that stage.

I saw a breakdown recently, over the lifetime of all materials used solar vs wind turbines vs coal power plant, it went into just how much waste solar panels and wind turbines produce.

With the life of those materials being 25-30 years it isn’t even close waste to kilowatts produced. After 2.5 decades all those solar panels and batteries and wiring goes in the trash and you have to do it all over again.

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I saw a breakdown recently, over the lifetime of all materials used solar vs wind turbines vs coal power plant, it went into just how much waste solar panels and wind turbines produce.

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Do you have a link to that?

I don't see anyway that can be possible. A coal plant will use about 1lb of fuel per kWh and produce about. .15lb of waste per kWh. A 500w solar module, that you can pick up by yourself, will produce over 15MWh in it's 25 year warrantied life and even more in it's 35 year useful life. Even assigning it proportional racking, inverter and balance of system would still be a couple hundred pounds at most. While those same 15MWh of coal would need 15klbs of fuel and produce 2250lbs of waste.

And thats just fuel. Before we get into materials to build and maintenance, lubricants, etc.

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All this excess shite when LFTRs would make solar look like a joke.....but it's verboten because of the progressives and greenies.

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You realize they just juiced the nuclear PTC right?

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I'll believe that shite when actual LFTRs start getting built. Pardon me if I don't trust the US government as far as a limp wristed trans woman can throw them.

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It’s not the govts fault. Blame NIMBYs. They get sued into oblivion before they ever get a chance. Everyone wants the feds to be the boogie man, but it’s really your neighbors.

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Not my neighbors. Blue state neighbors. They are the poster children of NIMBYism after all.

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I wish that were true but it’s not. Red state, blue state, doesn’t matter. I had a project in west Texas get killed by the locals. Not a single lawsuit filed by a lefty environmental group but all by locals. I’ve had over a dozen killed over the past 5 years before they even could submit the project. You just can’t pay millions in pre-not litigation and come out the other end with anyone willing to still give you money for a project with a 20 year ROI and some tax credits.

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ETA: Folks need a logic class. Just because I say one thing is better than the other, doesn't mean the first thing is good. ie: A kick in the mouth is better than a kick in the nuts. Doesn't mean I'm saying a kick in the mouth is good...

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this site is full of people that have been brainwashed into kneejerk reactions when they hear the word solar.

you should be proud when these people downvote you, it means you survived the brainwashing. it's probably because you are in Utah and not Louisiana

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What was their reasoning? No troll here, serious interest. Why? There is a massive solar farm proposed near where I live now so I'm interested in reasoning from other communities equally affected.

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They just throw out a bunch of claims about local environmental impact, ground water contamination, basically everyone from the greenies playbook for O&G but it’s a bunch of ranchers and good old boys. These are rural areas and get heard in places like Mentone where they know the judges so they let them bend everyone over. It’s a combination of people being legitimately misinformed and scared and others who are jealous they aren’t getting a piece of the pie, easements, etc.

The end result is the cases have no legs and eventually go away but you just wastes ten million dollars fighting them off and you didn’t even get a congestion analysis done because you had a TRO on any work. The money walks away and finds somewhere else to go.

This all used to happen solar and wind more when it was newer. But they’re less scary and don’t attract as far reaching ire as nuke and now the playbook in defeating them is pretty well known. I actually have a copy of the depo from my FIL when they built the wind farm on our ranch. It’s pretty hilarious because it was infancy of wind.