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re: What do you people have against solar farms?
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:28 am to windriverwonders
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:28 am to windriverwonders
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If you are against a landowner determining how their land is used you are a commie.
I would never do that to my poor neighbors. Solar farms are fricking blights on nature.
You can easily convince greedy landowners to frick over their neighbors because the government has decided that oil is bad, but massive farms of plastic and metal are acceptable.
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:35 am to Loup
I have a few acres in Mississippi. A solar farm wants to take half of it. I am under contract right now if they decide to build, which I hope they do.
The money you make is enough to replace your property in with another property if we are looking at rural cheap property. Then you will continue to have income from your original property.
In my case I will still have half the land for hunting.
Another scenario is just use a portion of the income to lease land for hunting. Unless there is some sentimental attachment it looks like a win to me. I just wish I had more land to lease.
The money you make is enough to replace your property in with another property if we are looking at rural cheap property. Then you will continue to have income from your original property.
In my case I will still have half the land for hunting.
Another scenario is just use a portion of the income to lease land for hunting. Unless there is some sentimental attachment it looks like a win to me. I just wish I had more land to lease.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:43 am to WeeWee
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What effect does a solar farm have?
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No more solar farms in Louisiana.
I do not have an issue with many forms of renewable energy, but I do with solar farms.
They have:
-a limited life
-huge cleanup cost
-very little to no permanent job creation
-long term harm to the land it is on
-adverse effects to neighboring areas during its life (residual heat, aesthetic, increased risk of debris during hurricanes, noise)
And I forgot to add reduced property value because who wants to live next to an ugly arse, hot, humming solar farm?
I am not for putting one land owner's desire for more money above the happiness and wellbeing of all others
Why should someone with 500 acres that lives in a different parish have more rights than me because I only have 10 acres, but have lived here for 30+ years?
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:45 am to StTiger
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I am not for putting one land owner's desire for more money above the happiness and wellbeing of all others
Greed is rampant.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:52 am to StTiger
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Why should someone with 500 acres that lives in a different parish have more rights than me because I only have 10 acres, but have lived here for 30+ years?
Because the owner of the 500 acres owns the 500 acres.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:15 am to WeeWee
This is America. It is supposed to protect every citizen and not be a free for all for the wealthy
Y'all can bitch and complain about laws, regulations, or land ordinances, but there is a reason for them. Because without them, the system will be used and abused to the detriment of all others. That is not speculation, it is fact proven time and time again. Look at factory labor, look at wildlife and fishing (a foreign nation will quickly come and wipe out anything the gulf has to offer without regulation), banking, mortgages, enron, worldcom
Have fun with your heavy metal leakage and massive clean up bill when the solar company "suddenly" goes belly up at the end of the solar farms life. That is what is going to happen. Look into the companies leasing and installing most of the farms. They are shells of shells of shells with contracts that require clean up at the end of use, but that will fall on the land owner when the shell company conveniently folds
Y'all can bitch and complain about laws, regulations, or land ordinances, but there is a reason for them. Because without them, the system will be used and abused to the detriment of all others. That is not speculation, it is fact proven time and time again. Look at factory labor, look at wildlife and fishing (a foreign nation will quickly come and wipe out anything the gulf has to offer without regulation), banking, mortgages, enron, worldcom
Have fun with your heavy metal leakage and massive clean up bill when the solar company "suddenly" goes belly up at the end of the solar farms life. That is what is going to happen. Look into the companies leasing and installing most of the farms. They are shells of shells of shells with contracts that require clean up at the end of use, but that will fall on the land owner when the shell company conveniently folds
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:26 am to StTiger
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This is America. It is supposed to protect every citizen and not be a free for all for the wealthy
So in the land of the free it is ok for an owner of 10 acres to tell the owner of 500 acres what he can and cannot do with his land? Does the same apply in reverse?
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Have fun with your heavy metal leakage and massive clean up bill when the solar company "suddenly" goes belly up at the end of the solar farms life. That is what is going to happen. Look into the companies leasing and installing most of the farms.
Meh. It would take 200 years of timber sales and government payments to equal the up front payment and guaranteed payments over the life of the lease if my land is put into a solar farm.
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They are shells of shells of shells with contracts that require clean up at the end of use, but that will fall on the land owner when the shell company conveniently folds
That is why solar companies are now putting the money for restoring the land into escrow account. If the money ends up not being enough then the land can sit there and be a toxic eye sore for all I care. The ROI from the solar money will easily out generate what the land is earning today.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:27 am to WeeWee
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So in the land of the free it is ok for an owner of 10 acres to tell the owner of 500 acres what he can and cannot do with his land?
With rights comes responsibility.
The last place I want to live in the country is around massive solar farms. i would hope people would have enough consideration to think about that.
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So in the land of the free it is ok for an owner of 10 acres to tell the owner of 500 acres what he can and cannot do with his land?
With rights comes responsibility.
The last place I want to live in the country is around massive solar farms.
Nothing stopping you from moving.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:38 am to StTiger
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Look into the companies leasing and installing most of the farms.
The developers are fly by night, but by the time they get to construction you're almost always dealing with a major utility or other large company thats backed by a JV with a F100 bank. They're the ones who own the asset, not the developer.
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Have fun with your heavy metal leakage
Leaching is a non-issue for every solar farm being built today and it was barely a thing for traditional PV before.
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:40 am to Loup
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underneath the panels
You’ve about doubled the cost of an already challenged project.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:43 am to Penrod
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You’ve about doubled the cost of an already challenged project.
You about triple the cost of the racking but you can also co to bifacial modules to juice the production about 20%. The total project would cost about 50% more and have 20% increased production for the life of the asset which is about 35 years.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:55 am to billjamin
put out timber tracts to bid last month, came back with zero offers to cut from every timber co in the parish.
just makes our decision to lease to solar make so much more sense.
not greed, not some crazy greenie or politic beliefs, just basic economics for land owners
just makes our decision to lease to solar make so much more sense.
not greed, not some crazy greenie or politic beliefs, just basic economics for land owners
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:02 am to WeeWee
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Nothing stopping you from moving.
The modern man's attitude. Ive got mine, all my neighbors now need to move if they dont like it.
If a dude put up a hog rendering plant next to your house, you would throw a fit.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:09 am to WeeWee
Weird bump, but you can calm down.
The question was what we have against solar farms. I said they're a waste of land. I don't care what people do with their own land if it doesn't affect me.
The question was what we have against solar farms. I said they're a waste of land. I don't care what people do with their own land if it doesn't affect me.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The modern man's attitude. Ive got mine, all my neighbors now need to move if they dont like it.
If a dude put up a hog rendering plant next to your house, you would throw a fit.
So I should miss out on several millions of dollars because the neighbor might not like it?
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
wait can I tell all the chicken houses in the parish to get rid of them?
I never would never, because I believe in personal property rights and every families ability to make a living
the entitlement & self righteous of some of y'all is quite something
I never would never, because I believe in personal property rights and every families ability to make a living
the entitlement & self righteous of some of y'all is quite something
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:42 am to WeeWee
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So I should miss out on several millions of dollars because the neighbor might not like it?
Depends on how you define your place in humanity.
If youre simply a consumer, go for it. You have no values.
Would you want a hog rendering plant next to your house?
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 11:44 am
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Depends on how you define your place in humanity.
LOL
Posted on 10/14/24 at 12:49 pm to Kingpenm3
So capital will be spent to buy electricity with a 23% capacity factor. It will be subsidized substantially. It will disincentivize investment in reliable base load generation which will meet demand 24/7/365, unlike solar and wind.
Other than that, yes, let’s subsidize solar at the expense of homelessness, drug treatment, veteran assistance, roads and bridges, law enforcement, border enforcement, etc.
Other than that, yes, let’s subsidize solar at the expense of homelessness, drug treatment, veteran assistance, roads and bridges, law enforcement, border enforcement, etc.
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