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re: What are BTR’s (Baton Rouge airport) long-term plans to remain competitive and viable

Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:58 pm to
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I don't think there's enough land on the east bank of the river to facilitate an airport that would serve about 13M travelers.



I was always curious as to why the "mega airport" was suggested for the west bank when the bulk of the market was on the east bank.

This would be an ideal spot for it if the terrain could support it. Easy access to both Airline and I-10. Close to New Orleans, Hammond, and Baton Rouge. MSY and BTR could be shut down and redeveloped.



They've built airports on much worse terrain before. BOS, LGA, and SFO are all on landfill.

I-10 would need a significant upgrade for this, but they are going to have to do that anyway.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:59 pm to
That's a wildlife refuge

And all wetlands. The mitigation alone would be astronomical. Not to mention the idea is moot for another 20+ years with new MSY terminal.
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I was always curious as to why the "mega airport" was suggested for the west bank when the bulk of the market was on the east bank.


The mega airport was intended to be on the east bank near the foot of the sunshine bridge IIRC.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:01 pm to
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That's a wildlife refuge



Even south of I-10?
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31901 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:02 pm to
I just want a damn direct flight from Love Field to BR so I don’t have to keep going to DFW every time I want to fly in
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:03 pm to
Yep...

LINK
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:04 pm to
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I just want a damn direct flight from Love Field to BR so I don’t have to keep going to DFW every time I want to fly in


I don't see Southwest entering BTR unless MSY gets a Frontier hub.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:06 pm to
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It allows people a quick escape from Baton Rouge. I would consider that a plus.


Yep. There is no better feeling than flying directly into your hometown. There is a value to that when I consider BTR versus MSY.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:07 pm to
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The mega airport was intended to be on the east bank near the foot of the sunshine bridge IIRC.



Like you said...it will be another 20 years before this idea is really considered either way since MSY is getting a new terminal, which will likely prompt BTR to upgrade their terminal and finally re-route Plank away from their runway.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Rabid Tiger
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2003
3694 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:07 pm to
Baton Rouge needs to be a destination first. You can build the shite out of the airport, but if you ain't got folks wanting to go to BR outside of LSU sports and occasional business travel why would you go to BR? NOLA is a tourist and convention mecca.

BR has more pressing needs like doing a loop study to see if it's feasible, or send some folks to another city to gather ideas to see why those cities are successful.

This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 4:09 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25339 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:13 pm to
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Yeah. I think AA would add ORD or IAD/DCA before DL added a NYC or DTW/MSP.



If Delta expands in BTR, they will just add more flights to ATL or put more mainline service in the mix.

A new link on United to EWR or AA to DCA are real possibilities in the near future though.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:49 pm to
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If Delta expands in BTR, they will just add more flights to ATL or put more mainline service in the mix.



Which I'm fine with...I'd love another afternoon flight for late-evening connections.

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A new link on United to EWR or AA to DCA are real possibilities in the near future though.


Yep.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75175 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:11 pm to
CCLA is closer to NOLA when you’re driving 80-85 down I-10. BTR takes longer time.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3014 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:28 pm to
I think AA to JFK and UA to ORD makes good sense for route expansions.

On a layover AA to DCA replicates what DFW/CLT are already capable of. JFK improves 1-stop access to Europe and Middle East (important for oil companies) considerably.

Similar story for UA where both Europe and Asia Pacific (good for chemical companies) opens up considerably from ORD compared to IAH.
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
13536 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:55 pm to
Right after Katrina didn’t BTR get added routes. I know I flew to Chicago from Baton Rouge on United. Thought they had NYC and maybe Washington as destinations back then too.

An issue as of now is the runway is too short to accommodate a fully loaded jet with luggage and fuel to get to a destination nonstop. My United flight to Chicago was on a regional jet but we had to make a fuel stop in Little Rock. Could not take off with enough fuel to make it nonstop with the passanger load, fuel and luggage. Imagine a flight to NYC or DC and it would probably be the same.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75175 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:59 pm to
After Katrina BTR had Denver, LA, Cincinnati, Washington DC and I believe Detroit.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 6:21 pm to
BTR will remain what it is today, if they are lucky. It certainly won't grow with the options available 80 miles away. MSY's new terminal and concourse are gonna be world class nice.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 6:22 pm to
BTR will never get Southwest.
Posted by CuseTiger
On the road
Member since Jul 2013
8198 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 6:24 pm to
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A new link on United to EWR

This one would be welcomed. Houston does not serve all the small airports in the northeast, let alone mid sized cities like Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany, etc. My trip up to Buffalo today/tomorrow would've required me spending half the day with 2 stops each way making it up/back
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58113 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 6:37 pm to
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unless they raze the whole shithole that is MSY, they can't enhance it enough to make it nice


That's so cute.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 6:39 pm to
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An issue as of now is the runway is too short to accommodate a fully loaded jet with luggage and fuel to get to a destination nonstop.


False. The runway is 7500 feet long.

Midway in Chicago and LaGuardia in NYC have shorter runways than BTR.
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