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re: We're Re-examining How We Portray Cops Onscreen. Now It's Time to Talk About Superheroes

Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:32 am to
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So Superman will become wonder women or the other way around


Correct. You’ll also get a lecture about your privilege or a guilt trip on you not supporting their cause. Then TD will tell you, it’s completely normal, doesn’t effect you, and you can simply change the channel or not watch the movie if you don’t like it.
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:32 am to
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I swear Thanos was the good guy in these lunatics minds.

Have you spent an hour trying to move five miles in Baton Rouge? Thanos was on to something
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:34 am to
What a hypocrite.


LINK

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20 New Movies to Watch This Summer—and When to Expect 2020's Rescheduled Blockbusters

The New Mutants (August 28, 2020)

Oh what a journey New Mutants has taken to theaters. The plagued X-Men spinoff, originally supposed to debut in 2018, is finally (supposedly) hitting theaters this summer. The cast of the superhero-horror mashup includes buzzy young stars like Game of Thrones’ Maisie Williams, Emma’s Anya Taylor-Joy and Stranger Things’ Charlie Heaton.

Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:34 am to
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Now every fringe opinion gets accelerated straight to “headline” news. Anyone can write anything and make it seem like it has a following.


You think the majority of Democrats don’t agree with this article ?
Posted by diremustang
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:35 am to
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The “bad guys” they pursue are often people of color, their characters undeveloped beyond their criminality

Maybe if you are talking about the aliens who are different colors. Other than that, there are three POC "villains" in the MCU, and two of them are treated as being at worst morally grey, and possible morally right. Compare this to half the movies having the villain end up being a shady white businessman or government official.

Marvel has eight announced movies in the works. two of them are focused on straight white guys
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 11:44 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:37 am to
Just.

The.

Statues.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:41 am to
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swear these Twitter Warrior "journalists" are some miserable mfers. Jesus they're fricking movies for entertainment it doesn't need to be politicized.


We have been told for years having gay people on TV doesn’t indoctrinate you into thinking homosexuality is ok or normal. But now they are saying portraying cops as good guys indoctrinated people to ignore bad cops?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:49 am to
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The “bad guys” they pursue are often people of color, their characters undeveloped beyond their criminality.
This is total bullshite. The villains are not only mostly white (or fricking green or blue) but are often more nuanced and developed than the archetypal perfect heroes.

ETA: holy shite, I just realized that's what she means by POC - the blue and green people.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
31152 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:54 am to
Written by Eliana Dockterman, a lily white woman who only runs in elite white circles, has never really been a comic book fan in her life and has few black friends. The problem is Marvel just isn't woke enough, see.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:57 am to
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most superhero stories star straight, white men


True, because historically that's been the demographic that bought most of the comics.

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who either function as an extension of a broken U.S. justice system or as vigilantes without any checks on their powers.


Wrong. They usually become vigilantes in order to address issues beyond the justice system (ie: super-villains the system can't incarcerate without aid from the heroe(s)).

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Usually, they have some sort of tentative relationship with the government: The Avengers work for the secretive agency S.H.I.E.L.D.; Batman takes orders from Gotham police commissioner Gordon;


Wrong. Working WITH someone is not the same as working FOR someone. Gordon doesn't give Batman marching order, for example. He gives Batman cases the cops can't handle or make headway on, but Batman can decide whether to follow up on them or wipe his arse with them.

The technical term for this is called "cooperation" and it can be explained in more depth on pretty much any episode of Sesame Street.

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even the villainous members of the Suicide Squad execute government orders in exchange for commuted prison sentences.


See: work release programs

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And even when superheroes function outside the justice system, they’re sometimes idolized by police because they are able to skirt the law to “get the job done.”


No shite. That's kind of the whole point, no idea why this twit considers it a negative.


Interesting tidbit of projection by the author: Every instance of the word "black" (all 20) in that article are all capitalized ("Black") while every instance of the word "white" (all 8) in the article are all lower-cased ("white").

Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:24 pm to
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I swear Thanos was the good guy in these lunatics minds.



The more I see of our society each day, the more I'm thinking Thanos might actually be the good guy.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17828 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:17 pm to
When I think of super villains, without thinking, the first that comes to mind are Joker, Lex Luthor, Darkseid, Green Goblin, Two-face, and Red Skull.

Not a single one of those guys are black. Hell, the only black villain I can even think of is Killmonger. Someone help me out am I missing some more?

To go beyond movie universe, in the CW verse. Oliver Queen at his most vigilantism went against a bunch of white businessman who were shady. I'm not even sure if he went after a single black person the 1st season. Beyond that, never has the main villain been black(I haven't watched in 2 years so maybe that changed). Hell, for the Flash and Arrow, 90% of the random street criminals they deal with are always white guys.

I really do fail to understand the point she is trying to make here.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:18 pm to
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read more


No thanks, what you highlighted was enough
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:19 pm to
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Not a single one of those guys are black. Hell, the only black villain I can even think of is Killmonger. Someone help me out am I missing some more?



Wilson Fisk in Ben Affleck's Dare Devil movie.
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:22 pm to
A superhero thread!!! Kickass!!

OT help me here. It goes all the way back at least as far as the 1960's Kryptonian show, and the 70's Hanna Barbara Super-Friends, even 80's Secret Wars era:

Why did they insist on wearing different color draws on the outside their pants? Dafuq was that all about? Someone, please explain this to my simple arse.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 4:24 pm to
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Why did they insist on wearing different color draws on the outside their pants? Dafuq was that all about? Someone, please explain this to my simple arse.


Superman was created in the late 1930's. In that era travelling circuses and fairs were highly dominant entertainment. The athletic performers like trapeze artists and strongmen wore tight-fitting suits to better show off their abilities and musculature. The problem was those outfits also showed off their junk so men routinely wore underwear-like garments outside their outfits. As that look was associated with strength and almost freak-ish athletics at the time, Superman's outfit was designed based off of that.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 4:31 pm to
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The “bad guys” they pursue are often people of color


Life does often imitate art
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40188 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 4:35 pm to
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Legal procedurals and shoot-em-up action movies have long presented a skewed perception of the justice system in America, in which the police are almost always positioned as the good guys

think about that sentence for a moment
I would state it differently: the police are almost always positioned as being right about who the bad guys are - to the point of almost always leading the audience to pull for the police, regardless of legality, due process or civil rights.
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:04 am to
Your explanation makes sense. I thank you. I'm grateful football uniforms didn't go that route.

I guess that's my 2 bits on how we portray Superheroes: this ain't the 1930's! Wear your draws on the inside.

Also, Hollywood please don't portray cops with draws on the outside, either.

Finally, LEO of America, please continue following these draws guidelines. I don't think it's been an issue before, but unforeseen shite is transpiring currently so you can't be too careful.
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