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Was WWII the most pivotal event of the 20th century?

Posted on 7/14/26 at 1:51 pm
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 1:51 pm
The 20th century was one that saw the biggest rise in technology, but also the most bloodshed probably of any century ever. There were a lot of major events that happened. I personally feel WWII was the biggest. If the Allies had lost, the world would be a very different place today. Do you agree or disagree?
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 1:51 pm to
Gavrilo Princip started all of it.
This post was edited on 7/14/26 at 1:52 pm
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 1:53 pm to
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Gavril Princip started all of it.


The tensions were already at boiling level. If he didn’t kill the Archduke, the war may have started anyway
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 1:54 pm to
Probably WWI and the Russian revolution.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 1:55 pm to
One could argue WW2 was just a resumption of WW1. So I'd say the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was the most pivotal moment in the 20th century.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 1:57 pm to
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The tensions were already at boiling level. If he didn’t kill the Archduke, the war may have started anyway

i agree, but as it actually happened, my opinion is that Gavrilo Princip's assassination of the Archduke in 1914 is the pivotal event of the century because it triggered everything else
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:00 pm to
1910 meeting at Jekyll Island
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

The tensions were already at boiling level. If he didn’t kill the Archduke, the war may have started anyway



Yep. WWI was happening no matter what.

The Merchants of Death theory is also pretty interesting, that various arms dealers (and their investors) were pressuring countries to go to war with each other.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:03 pm to
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Gavrilo Princip started all of it.


This. Because he assassinated Ferdinand, we had WW I, the Communist Revolution, the Mandate System in the Middle East, WW II, the development of nuclear weapons, the Cold War and War on Terror.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:03 pm to
Russia getting destroyed in the Battle of Tsushima set the wheels in motion for a lot of future 20th century events. This was a devastating blow to the Romanovs and fostered the environment that led to the Russian Revolution.

Also, Japan's victory gave them the confidence to get a lot bolder and more aggressive with their expansion goals. This ultimately led to the Pacific War.
This post was edited on 7/14/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:04 pm to
I think the invention of the computer/internet or of nuclear weapons or space travel will ultimately have a greater impact on the world.

Now that I think about it, at least two of those things, maybe all, were a direct result of WWII. So, yes WWII was pivotal indeed.
This post was edited on 7/14/26 at 2:08 pm
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:07 pm to
The outcome of WWII resulted in the global spheres of influence we see today. So the answer is yes.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:13 pm to
WWII was a result of WWI, which was the actual pivotal event of not only the 20th century, but the most transformative event in perhaps since the opening of the New World in 1492

1. Collapse of the Empire System
- fall of the German Empire
- fall of the Russian Empire
- fall of the Austro-Hungarian Empire
- fall of the Ottoman Empire

2. The US replaced Britain as the worlds economic superpower

3. The rise of communism as a global force

4. Transformation of western civilization with women entering the workplace, and subsequently gaining political power

5. The birth of the Middle East as it’s known today.

6. The rise of air power and mechanized land warfare


That only a few of the changes WWI brought that I can think of off the top of my head.
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:14 pm to
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The outcome of WWII resulted in the global spheres of influence we see today. So the answer is yes.


I agree with this. Not to mention Israel becoming a nation as well which is a direct result of the Allies Powers winning WWII.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29635 posts
Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:16 pm to
1- Chicken’s birth








2- WWI/WWII, as I believe, like a poster above, much of the cause of the WWII was the outcome and immediate aftermath of WWI.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:23 pm to
quote:


I agree with this. Not to mention Israel becoming a nation as well which is a direct result of the Allies Powers winning WWII.

all of that came out of WWI - the Sykes Picot agreement, the Balfour declaration, etc
Posted by Swamp Angel
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:23 pm to
Expand the time frame to include The Great Depression and you pretty much encompass everything that has greatly impacted the way the world is now since WWII probably wouldn't have occurred without the depression of the 1930s causing so much hardship and discord on the general population worldwide. Hitler would probably have remained a derelict failed artist without a national financial crisis that needed someone to blame. Japan would more than likely have remained a good trading partner with the West and not sought to expand its influence and dominance throughout the Pacific had they not been between a rock and a hard place due to the depression of the 1930s.

But you're probably correct insofar as the single most identifiable pivotal event of the 20th century being the Second World War since it was ultimately the full resolution and corrective action that was the result of hitting an economic rock bottom on a global scale.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
56817 posts
Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:30 pm to
sometimes I think this is all one big game
someone not on earth is using all of us as pawns

they love war and enjoyed World War 2 like playing us as toys

I'm just trying to figure out why they haven't had the nuclear war, maybe we are all to fun to play with all the time
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

1910 meeting at Jekyll Island

Bingo
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38201 posts
Posted on 7/14/26 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Gavrilo Princip started all of it.

There’s no end to this chain. The revolutions of 1848 and the Franco-Prussian War were just as causal.
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