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Was the Byzantine empire Greek or Roman?

Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:55 pm
Obviously it is from the ancient Roman Empire but it seems mostly Greek in culture. Anyone know more about this?
Posted by RockChalkTiger
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:57 pm to
Roman
Posted by Slagathor
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:58 pm to
I’ve never been more disappointed to click on a thread and not be met with a dad joke.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:58 pm to
Por que no los dos?
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:00 pm to
Holy Roman Empire

The First Reich
Posted by LoneStarRanger
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:00 pm to
Spoke Greek but called themselves Roman (because they were the eastern empire). It was heavily a Hellenic culture

Historians like John Julius Norwich like to separate the Eastern Roman Empire and Byzantine based on when the Hellenic tendencies and identity superseded the Roman (see Iconoclasm). Also another qualification is when the Byzantines finally lost their reconquered Italian holdings and began to face the Arabs and Turks (900 AD to 1453 AD)

The Byzantines never used the word/name "Byzantine". It is a modern construct for historical purposes
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:01 pm to
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Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:02 pm to
Turkish
Posted by Huey Lewis
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:02 pm to
Neither. It was Byzantine.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:03 pm to
Greek
Posted by brett randall
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:05 pm to
Google is your friend.
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:10 pm to
They were Moopes.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:12 pm to
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Holy Roman Empire


Was neither holy nor Roman. Discuss among yourselves.
Posted by NorCali
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:13 pm to
Is this Age of Empires related?
Posted by crash1211
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:15 pm to
Both. I think they embraced a lot of the Greek culture.
Posted by Woodreaux
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:20 pm to
The city was a lot closer to the Hellanic than Latin heartlands; obviously the Romans held it for a while, and was part of Empire. However, the Empire was partitioned in various scopes all the back the Triumvates. The city's locale was also peopled by non-Hellanic folks: Thracians and the Iconian sections of Anatolya. There were other migration waves as well that altered the demographics.

As Rome was sacked, the "Western Roman Empire" collapsed, the Byzantium seemed like a good site to relocate the capitol. In reality: it was mostly Hellanic/Caucasus types there anyway, but it was the Romans who regained them access to that region (Alexander had been through not that long ago). It made sense politically for many people to say "the Roman Empire wasn't dead, it just moved to the east... away from uh, Rome".

The continuity of the empire is possible because of the Romans considered them as inherently civilized as they were and their cultures were similar enough for them to be compatible. Were they Greek or Roman? I look at the dynasties running that regime; those weren't Latin names.

This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 5:22 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:24 pm to
Fun fact...Rome hadn't been the capital of the Roman Empire since the year 286 when Diocletian moved it to Milan. That remained the capital of the Western Roman Empire until its collapse.

Posted by crazycubes
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:26 pm to
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Obviously it is from the ancient Roman Empire
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:30 pm to
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Was neither holy nor Roman. Discuss among yourselves.


They weren’t an empire either.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:42 pm to
Actually by the time Attila runs rampant through Western Europe, the capitol was in Ravenna.

Byzantium was chosen when Constantine ascended to be emperor around 310 -315. He realizes that the empire had gotten too large for one man to effectively govern. Constantine was not from Rome so he identified mote with the East.

Byzantium was strategically important because it was where Europe and Asia Minor come close.
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