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re: Was the Byzantine empire Greek or Roman?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:46 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:46 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Do you even Western Civ?
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:51 pm to Mike da Tigah
Brb gonna go listen to dan Carlin so he can tell me how to become history expert!
Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:59 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
That reminds me. I’m holding out hope that the based Greeks get tired of playing defense against the Turks and their migrants and mount an offensive to take back Constantinople.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:01 pm to crash1211
quote:^Owlie Bait comment
I think they embraced a lot of the Greek culture.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:02 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Byzantine Empire
Overly Sarcastic Production
It was Roman, but they significantly changed culturally.
Overly Sarcastic Production
It was Roman, but they significantly changed culturally.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:03 pm to KiwiHead
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Ravenna.
You're right! And I had just read about that, too.
I had a brain fart and forgot about its move from Milan to Ravenna.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:05 pm to Bench McElroy
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They weren’t an empire either.
They were under Charlemagne.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:06 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Really kinda both, Roman law etc, but culture and religion were mostly Greek
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:15 pm to TutHillTiger
And many of the royals and elites were of Greek ancestry right?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:20 pm to TutHillTiger
They considered themselves Roman, but adapted a lot of the Greek culture (which was nothing new, even back in the western empire, since the aristocratic class had a lot of admiration for Greek culture). Even as huge chunks of Italy were sacked and ruled by others, there was a Roman/Byzantine presence in the area for hundreds of years after the ‘fall’ of the western empire. It took a very long time for most Byzantine leadership to realize the west was really gone, since they had small outposts and allies in the area.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:25 pm to OGtigerfan87
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And many of the royals and elites were of Greek ancestry right?
Not necessarily. Really there were Byzantine emperors from all over what we now call Eastern Europe. Lots of warfare between families, military figures, etc. constantly trying to gain control over Byzantium until there was nothing left.
There’s a really good podcast series about Byzantium. History of Byzantium. Look it up. Takes you all the way back to the ‘fall’ of the west and proceeds from there.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:28 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Byzantium was heavily populated by those of macedon/greek lineage (look at the names)-- this is simple geography. Politically it was absolutely the Eastern empire of Rome and the only Roman Empire that existed after the west fell (research the dual Caesars of the diarchy). Byzantines considered themselves Roman, 100%.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 6:42 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I read a passage in a Greek(Hellenic) text, that during the Greko-Turkish War 1919-1920, A Greek (Hellenic) Soldier was posting guard in a village in Anatolia. A little girl was staring at him, and he asked what are you staring at. She told hem she had never seen a Greek (Hellen) before, in the Greek language. He asked what she was and she replied that she was Rhomaîos or a Roman.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:09 pm to OGtigerfan87
Royalty didn’t work that way in the Byzantine Empire. It was more of aristocracy than nobility. There were many Bulgar, Thracian, Levantine, Anatolian emperors/ministers/governors.
It was sort of a brutal system where a military leader would often proclaim himself Emperor and then fight for the throne. Also many times, the Regent would effectively be Ruler and then kill off a child-emperor. Uncles would kill nephews for the throne and visce versa.
Then there was the Senate
Oh and at the end of the day, the mob (not organized crime) ruled. Often times if the people tired of the Emperor or a governor, they would overthrow them quickly. At the end of the day, it was oddly a government with the consent of the people
It was sort of a brutal system where a military leader would often proclaim himself Emperor and then fight for the throne. Also many times, the Regent would effectively be Ruler and then kill off a child-emperor. Uncles would kill nephews for the throne and visce versa.
Then there was the Senate
Oh and at the end of the day, the mob (not organized crime) ruled. Often times if the people tired of the Emperor or a governor, they would overthrow them quickly. At the end of the day, it was oddly a government with the consent of the people
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:10 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I don't know the answer to the question. But I have a question. If Spain attacked Italy from the rear, would Greece help?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:21 pm to MBclass83
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I don't know the answer to the question. But I have a question. If Spain attacked Italy from the rear, would Greece help?
Greece always helps. They will be the key to exploring the outer solar system planets like Uranus.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:22 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Turkish?
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