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re: Warning: here are "signs of whiteness"
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:What kind of conflict are we talking about here? Northern Europeans haven't exactly been the most pacifistic of peoples historically.
you have to get into the real questionable areas like the Mediterranean to see white cultures who love conflict
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
In a reasonable universe, we could talk about predominate themes of black and white culture without people getting all "WELL ACKSHUALLY" about it because we all know they're not universal and stereotypes aren't without plenty of exceptions.
American white people tend to avoid conflict, probably maintain smaller circles of intimacy than black people (family, social interaction, etc.), and have devoted decades and billions of dollars to making our society less intimate (even under the guise of making it more interconnected).
American white people tend to avoid conflict, probably maintain smaller circles of intimacy than black people (family, social interaction, etc.), and have devoted decades and billions of dollars to making our society less intimate (even under the guise of making it more interconnected).
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
How is this not for everyone? I don’t get it,
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:13 pm to northshorebamaman
i'm talking modern cultures
scandinavians are about as non-confrontational as you can get these days
scandinavians are about as non-confrontational as you can get these days
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:14 pm to PrivatePublic
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Am I supposed to be ashamed? I sound awesome from that.
Not ashamed of my great whiteness.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
How many of those boxes do they collectively check off? They being them. You know.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
I see that graphic as American values. I guess they're calling it white values because America has primarily been controlled by white people through history, but none of these seem to be inherent to white people in my opinion. White cultures around the world share different values than most of these. I also don't see most of those as a bad thing.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean, we kind of do
you have to get into the real questionable areas like the Mediterranean to see white cultures who love conflict. and i can say this as an italian whose ancestors were called not white for the cultural differences, including this.
I guess in a statistical and macroscopic sense sure, but that's not really where I'm aiming. I'm not saying white people as a whole actively participate in conflict, I'm saying ascribing these aversions to all white people and crafting this term "white culture" to rope all white people under an umbrella strikes me as racist.
It's why in your second sentence you used the letter "s" next to "white culture". There are so many subsets of people with white skin that I don't see how it isn't racist to group them together and ascribe things to them as a collective, even if those things are mostly positive.
It's to my point on if someone were to generate a graphic of "black culture" similar in format to this, I think their life would be over in about five seconds.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Majority rules (when whites have power)
I forgot when voting worked like this.
I forgot when voting worked like this.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
The scientific method is white? Is there something wrong with it?
There's so much wrong with this. Simplistic, reductive, prejudiced, false. And I don't think it's really worth the effort in figuring out how to break it all out.
There's so much wrong with this. Simplistic, reductive, prejudiced, false. And I don't think it's really worth the effort in figuring out how to break it all out.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
That looks like a poster of goals that everyone should strive to attain? What’s the problem with this?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
So they should take note?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:16 pm to Salmon
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this is normally the type of things that I write off as Twitter retard nonsense, but then actual academics and the fricking Smithsonian is printing shite like this and I just have no idea what to think
I agree
But as is frequently discussed of late, for a decade we treated critical race theory and intersectional queer feminism and God knows what else like the stupid academy creations they appeared to be. And now they're being pushed in the mainstream. Views like "you can't not be racist, you must be anti-racist" are in Fortune 500 boardrooms and school books.
I think we have to start assuming that this shite has legs, because the evidence indicates it does.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:16 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:Planning for the future, providing for your family, providing financial security are clues of whiteness?
Most of those are some pretty good things.
Who knew that planning for the future and rational thinking are exclusively white things?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:17 pm to Peazey
quote:
There's so much wrong with this. Simplistic, reductive, prejudiced, false. And I don't think it's really worth the effort in figuring out how to break it all out.
you can attack this graphic on so many grounds, from low-level to high-level, and from so many angles; that it's difficult to know where to start.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Dang ! I’m white as the driven snow:
White parents
Christians
Participated in religious holidays
Hard workers
White parents
Christians
Participated in religious holidays
Hard workers
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:19 pm to Ross
quote:
It's to my point on if someone were to generate a graphic of "black culture" similar in format to this, I think their life would be over in about five seconds.
unless we're talking about cultural appropriation, i don't think many even admit there is a "black culture" that easily
because:
quote:
There are so many subsets of people with white skin that I don't see how it isn't racist to group them together and ascribe things to them as a collective, even if those things are mostly positive.
of that argument
so yeah, it's funny when they do it for white people.
*ETA: not that i care in the "white fragility" sense, but just how illogical their rhetoric is on this stuff
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
So.
Any halfwit with a smart phone and Adobe Poster Design and make a flyer that says any thing they want.
Any halfwit with a smart phone and Adobe Poster Design and make a flyer that says any thing they want.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro

This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
*ETA: not that i care in the "white fragility" sense, but just how illogical their rhetoric is on this stuff
I care a lot because I feel as though I'm living in Animal Farm and am routinely being told 1+1 = 3.
Or more to the point, that certain behavior is fine for some people and not for others.
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