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re: Vatican investigating Diocese of Baton Rouge
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:07 pm to Champagne
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:07 pm to Champagne
From what I can tell, the unnamed victim was a grown man who was offered sex by the priest. That's what he was removed for. The guy going to the news is saying that his friend told him that the priest admitted to molesting kids. The private investigator hired by the diocese and the EBR sheriff were unable to find any evidence of that one.
Like I said, removing him for the gay stuff is the right move. I'm not sure what more they want for the other allegations if two agencies have closed their case on it. Unless we're going to start #MeToo'ing priests
Like I said, removing him for the gay stuff is the right move. I'm not sure what more they want for the other allegations if two agencies have closed their case on it. Unless we're going to start #MeToo'ing priests
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:13 pm to Swamp Frog x
Makes sense because what guy would get into a profession that prohibits you marrying and having sex with women. If your gay that does not bother you
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This generally isn’t a priest problem. It’s a homo problem. Most of them who do this shite are closet homos
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:14 pm to CollegeFBRules
Fun fact: priests were allowed to marry until the middle ages. Clergy were passing down their positions to their sons. European nobility didn't like priests, and especially bishops, becoming hereditary titles, and thus competition.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:16 pm to Loup
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I'm trying
Thank you, Sir.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:19 pm to Ingeniero
If the Police Detectives from local law enforcement investigated fully and were able to find no evidence of any crimes, then, we all should accept the results of the Baton Rouge Police investigation.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:27 pm to Champagne
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the Police Detectives from local law enforcement investigated fully and were able to find no evidence of any crimes, then, we all should accept the results of the Baton Rouge Police investigation.
100%
But you know just another ho-hum Catholic bashing thread
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:29 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Good point. Sandusky was married.
I don't believe the Sandusky allegations. I don't really have the energy to summarize what's wrong with the case against him, but I'll try to give you some food for thought, because I really think Sandusky was the genuine article - a kind, giving man who cared about vulnerable kids for totally non-sexual reasons - and it is my sincere hope that he is vindicated while he's still living.
First, Sandusky suffered from hypogonadism throughout the period covered by the allegations. He had extremely low testosterone. Keep in mind that the allegations do not claim that Sandusky was the passive or "bottom" participant in these sex acts (which supposedly took place with frequency and vigor seldom seen outside of pornography).
Second, Sandusky's wife remains married to him and drives several hours to visit him as frequently as it is allows.
Third, no pornography belonging to Sandusky was ever found.
Any one of these three things by itself would make Sandusky quite the statistical outlier among pedophiles. The fact that they are all true at once would make Sandusky totally unique among the millions of pedophiles that no doubt exist.
I've never been to State College, PA. I don't think I've even been to the state, unless you count flying over it in a jet. The allegations just seemed off to me from the get-go, and my hunch has grown into a strong conviction as events have unfolded and information has emerged.
If you're interested in learning more about this, the single best source is a guy named John Ziegler, who had a podcast about the case called "With the Benefit of Hindsight."
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:30 pm to TROLA
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This guy is gay. Marrying a woman won’t help. Right or wrong. The idea of priests marrying is deeper than sex. Priests are charged with the ideals that the church/god/Jesus are their most important mission. A family will rightfully shift their mission. Permanent deacons have helped bridge this issue but the core tenets of putting the church first is clouded by marriage
This seems reasonable. But what about the priests whose hearts/minds/penises are clouded by having to put the suppression of their sexuality first? How could that ever possibly be measured and honestly compared the extra weight of being husband/father?
I could argue that a healthy marriage—few and far between as they are now—has to, almost by definition, contain an emotionally healthy man who has displayed an ability to regulate and be in charge of his emotions. Might not that man actually be more likely to put the Church 1st? Though typing this out, I’m not sure how tangible/solid this hierarchy of “putting” we refer to actually means. It’s so abstract and likely very fluid throughout a man’s life.
I’m just playing devils’ advocate a bit. I’m not Catholic and have no dog in this fight. In and as much as there even truly is a “fight.” But I’ve been fascinated by the subject since I was a late teen. I can’t imagine having to suppress my horniness in those years and the long term effects that may have had.
It’s not an issue that’s easy to fully grasp and grapple with from my perspective and experiences, granted. Have there been movements in Church history that have argued that the “putting the Church 1st” is an easy cop out that have been ultimately shouted down? I’m genuinely curious. Perhaps the wrong thread to have chosen that particular adjective.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:33 pm to Porpus
Well, I sure hope that we didn't put an innocent Sandusky in prison.
Maybe there's something that additional investigation might find that could help him.
Maybe there's something that additional investigation might find that could help him.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:36 pm to Porpus
You’re seriously claiming that Jerry Sandusky is innocent? WTF?
This is probably the single most absurd post I’ve ever read on the internet.
This is probably the single most absurd post I’ve ever read on the internet.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:50 pm to Porpus
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The fact that they are all true at once would make Sandusky totally unique among the millions of pedophiles that no doubt exist.
He was pretty unique already amongst that group by being a highly successful, respected, and heralded, multi-millionaire college football defensive coordinator with a tremendous amount to lose, no? Wouldn’t that affect his behaviors in different ways?
You’re taking an outlier that we know exists already and mapping him as a different outlier, then using his outlier status as the sole basis for your argument that he shouldn’t exist. Well yeah, outliers are rare. That’s why they’re called “outliers.” They lie outside the average or mean. They have to exist in any defined group that’s not completely equal.
For someone whose argument boils down to “not enough evidence,” you too, did not provide enough evidence in your prosecution of his prosecution. And subsequent conviction. IMO. Mark me as unswayed.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:52 pm to cajuntiger1010
Bishop Duca shared with me that the diocese knew that Father Charbel had, quote, unquote, gone outside of his boundaries. He had admitted to requesting hand-holding. He had admitted to requesting a massage from his parishioner behind closed doors. But he said everything else beyond that was simply a misunderstanding,” Zumo said.
Disgusting. Duca needs to be fired and removed from priesthood at minimum
Disgusting. Duca needs to be fired and removed from priesthood at minimum
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:56 pm to Champagne
This is all a bit confusing. So they are investigating whether or not the Diocese pressured someone not to go to police but at the same time the Diocese shared what they knew with the police?
Posted on 5/9/26 at 3:00 pm to STEVED00
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This is all a bit confusing. So they are investigating whether or not the Diocese pressured someone not to go to police but at the same time the Diocese shared what they knew with the police?
Yeah thats how this stuff normally goes
Posted on 5/9/26 at 3:07 pm to CollegeFBRules
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At some point, the Catholic Church will figure out letting priests marry and have sex with women will solve so many of their problems
Is it nature or nurture though? Are homos/pedos drawn to becoming priests, OR are regular, straight, healthy, males turned into homos/pedos when they become priests? Like when prisoners engage in male sexual activity when that's all that is available...
Posted on 5/9/26 at 3:21 pm to Bubb
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Is it nature or nurture though? Are homos/pedos drawn to becoming priests, OR are regular, straight, healthy, males turned into homos/pedos when they become priests? Like when prisoners engage in male sexual activity when that's all that is available...
This really is the obvious question that no one has asked in this thread yet. Maybe because we’ve had this argument before and know there’s no possible answer, we just go round and round.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 4:08 pm to Jim Rockford
^^^^^ THIS
The 1st hand-picked (by the Son of man) leader of the church was Peter. He was married.
Jesus always told his disciples “leave all your worldly things, and follow me”. Jesus also always said “protect the children”.
However, (and I’m a lifelong RC say8ng this) the Vatican is the EXACT opposite of those original teachings of Christ. Not only is the Vatican the smallest country in the world, it is also one of, if not the wealthiest per capita. The bishops, archbishops, cardinals et al, live FAR better off than the original disciples of Christ. As well, they are doing absolutely NOTHING to protect the children.
I will not lump all of them in the evil category, but the good ones are so few and far between (I.e., cardinal Sarah), that the RCC, imo, will never change back to the original model implored by Jesus Christ.
That being said, before any of the other Christian churches start agreeing, they’re no better than what Jesus taught….. evangelical leaders are wealthy and do NOT leave all their worldly possessions behind — and so many have been caught Diddying their congregation.
The 1st hand-picked (by the Son of man) leader of the church was Peter. He was married.
Jesus always told his disciples “leave all your worldly things, and follow me”. Jesus also always said “protect the children”.
However, (and I’m a lifelong RC say8ng this) the Vatican is the EXACT opposite of those original teachings of Christ. Not only is the Vatican the smallest country in the world, it is also one of, if not the wealthiest per capita. The bishops, archbishops, cardinals et al, live FAR better off than the original disciples of Christ. As well, they are doing absolutely NOTHING to protect the children.
I will not lump all of them in the evil category, but the good ones are so few and far between (I.e., cardinal Sarah), that the RCC, imo, will never change back to the original model implored by Jesus Christ.
That being said, before any of the other Christian churches start agreeing, they’re no better than what Jesus taught….. evangelical leaders are wealthy and do NOT leave all their worldly possessions behind — and so many have been caught Diddying their congregation.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 4:12 pm to Chad504boy
Should have been burnt down long ago. The level of abuse and coverup by the Catholic Church, bishops and from the Vatican in over 300 countries is unbelievable.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 4:18 pm to Flightnclouds
Is this the thread where Protestants and atheists 69 each other?
Posted on 5/9/26 at 4:43 pm to cajuntiger1010
The blind eye towards child abuse and the pope beingto political make it hard to be a Catholic nowadays.
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