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re: Vatican investigating Diocese of Baton Rouge

Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:47 pm to
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: Law Enforcement detectives investigated all matters thoroughly and found no evidence of any criminal activity.



I don't know that we know that. If the alleged issues with minors happened elsewhere, even out of the country, those investigations may be ongoing.

Regardless, as a lay person, I would give Duca a vote of no confidence. You cannot ignore your own protocols. Criminal activity or not, you must follow the established procedures. Failure to do so means you're hiding something, or incompetent. Neither is acceptable.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 6:48 pm
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
18155 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:47 pm to
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Sorry he didn’t choose you or your boys.
Wonder if you’d love him if he chose to cover up any incidents involving your fam?


Shut up a-hole. You don’t even know Father Jamin. Don’t be making stupid comments about somebody who has little to do with this whole situation.

He’s the vicar general. He’s got to defer to the bishop on issues like this. You wanna blast Duca go ahead, but don’t talk shite about a great priest you don’t even know.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:49 pm to
There are still pedo priests? The diocese of Baton Rouge may have to sell all its buildings.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:13 pm to
This recent article confirms that the RCC policy is this: when you hear a victim or perpetrator speak of sexual contact with a child, call 911 immediately and speak to the police for the purpose of the police immediately conducting a law enforcement criminal investigation.

That what happens FIRST. You can tell anybody you want to after that, but FIRST thing you do is call 911 and report a Crime.

Apparently, the lay person parishoner was a witness to the Priest self-reporting having sexual contact with a minor. The lay person did not IMMEDIATLY call 911 to report a Crime. Instead, he reported to the clergy "chain of command". This layman violated RCC policy on how to respond because he did not immediately call 911 to report sexual assault of a minor.

Lay man is wrong and needs corrective training regarding what to do when you are a witness to a report of a sex crime involving a minor.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:33 pm to
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But, covering up pedos for the past five plus decades all over the planet shows that it is a cultural/leadership/recruitment problem, and it isn’t going away.


What part of the policy don't you understand? Call 911 immediately and report the crime. This should be the same policy in every organization in the USA.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23156 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:44 pm to
Did you read the Pillar article and not just the WBRZ Article? The Pillar article gives much more context.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3253 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:45 pm to
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Lay man is wrong and needs corrective training regarding what to do when you are a witness to a report of a sex crime involving a minor.


No. The "lay man" was the victim of unwanted sexual advances. He's not obligated to know protocols. He reported it to people who know the protocols, and the responsibility lies with them. Don't blame the victim. He wasn't a witness to abuse of a minor, only hearsay from the priest. Again, church authorities were notified, and the responsibility is theirs.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:15 pm to
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No. The "lay man" was the victim of unwanted sexual advances.


Wrong. I don't care if layman was the victim of an unwanted sexual advance. He is an adult. That's not a crime. He is not a crime victim. He is a victim of sexual harassment.

He IS wrong because he witnessed a criminal sex pervert's admission of the crime of sexual assault of a minor and he did not immediately call 911 to report the crime of sexual assault on minor. Instead he went to the local clergy. Layman violated Roman Catholic Church policy when he failed to immediately call 911 to report a sexual assault on a minor.

I don't care if Father wanted to suck his pee pee. Father is wrong, of course, but Layman is also wrong, because he failed to immediately report sexual assault on a minor to the Police.

I'm sorry that Layman was traumatized because some homo wanted to suckle his weiner, but, BE A MAN and report it to the police when you have evidence that a sexual assault on a minor has been committed.

Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:18 pm to
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He's not obligated to know protocols.


You are wrong.

Layman IS OBLIGATED to know protocols. An adult male who is a witness to an admission of sexual assault on a minor should call the police to report the crime, and in the RCC, he is OBLIGATED to do that immediately without consulting ANY clergy.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23156 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:29 pm to
It obviously was reported. If you read the article is appears that BR diocese also did not follow protocol hence the review.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:38 pm to
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It obviously was reported.


The crime of sexual assault on a minor was not immediately reported to Law Enforcement. It's mandatory for that to happen immediately.

It is very clear from the article that the Layman who witnessed the sex pervert's admission of the crime of sexual assault on a minor did not immediately call 911 to report the crime. Instead he told Clergy that a homo wanted to suck my penis and oh by the way he also said that he sucked off a little boy sometime in the past.

That is a big failure on Layman's part. RCC policy is that he should have immediately called the police to report the crime of sexual assault on a minor. He didn't do that.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:52 pm to
Gentlemen!

My goodness!

If you are the Witness to an Admission of Guilt of a sexual pervert who admits that he committed the crime of sexual assault on a minor, please immediately call 911 and tell Law Enforcement.

It is your duty as a man to do this before you do anything else.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23156 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:55 pm to
We get it. Law Enforcement was alerted but it also sounds like Bishop may have also tried to tell someone not to go to police. There is also a claim that other protocols were not followed.

Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:14 pm to
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We get it. Law Enforcement was alerted


Law Enforcement was definitely not alerted immediately after evidence of the crime of sexual assault on a child was revealed.

When Sex Pervert revealed his admission of committed the crime of sexual assault on a minor, the Layman had a duty to immediately call 911 and report the crime to law enforcement on that phone call.

It is clear from the article that Layman did not do that. Layman failed in his duty as a Man to act in a prudent an prompt manner to protect children.
Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
115 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:15 pm to
[For those closely following Baton Rouge Diocese and New Orleans Archdiocese]

[Pope Leo officially appoints McCarrick-linked bishop as new archbishop of New Orleans - From LifeSiteNews

Bp. Checcio allegedly covered up the abuse of the late ex-Cardinal McCarrick, has expressed support for Fr. James Martin's LGBT activism, and previously suppressed the Latin Mass.]

LINK

Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13252 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:20 pm to
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Mercy for many years???


LS, but due to visa issues, Covid and personal health, he was only active in ministry at Mercy for a short time
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 10:47 am
Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
3103 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:21 pm to
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Duca always gave me the ick feeling. Of course he is protecting pedophile priests. Gross.


He’s a leftist, it’s what they do.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3253 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:23 pm to
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Layman IS OBLIGATED to know protocols


While prudent, I don't see how you can hold a lay person to that standard. He gave the information to a mandatory reporter. You can certainly say it would have also been prudent for him to go directly to the police at that time. Ultimately, he did go directly to the police because Duca failed to act. The lay person was in fact the one who reported it to police.

There is an institution with protocols, and they were not followed. That's 100% on local church leadership, if the story is as reported.
Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
115 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:26 pm to
The USCCB’s most powerful non-bishop:

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Posted by LookAtTheData
Member since Feb 2020
115 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:53 pm to
Analyzing Vatican leadership:

[Fernandez says his Book ‘Heal Me with Your Mouth’ was meant as a Catechesis for Teenagers!

The appointment of the new Prefect of the Dicastery for the Destruction of the Faith, Archlayman Victor Manuel Fernandez, has caused an uproar online among many of members of the Vatican II Church.

The victims’ advocacy organization Bishop Accountability has accused ‘Abp.’ Fernandez of a “troubling record on [sex] abuse”, and they’re not the only ones:

“Pope chooses archbishop with troubling record on abuse for top Vatican post: Statement by BishopAccountability.org”]

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