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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:56 am to The Spleen
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A lot of people that don’t even watch soccer are going to be really upset over this.
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The Spleen
THAT’S your fricking hot take on this issue??? Not how absolutely fricking retarded this is or that they have no merit to kick and scream about equal anything, because they’re not
You liberals have lost your fricking minds. Nothing, absolutely nothing that y’all fight and champion for makes any logical sense to anyone with a fricking brain. Y’all don’t want equal opportunity, y’all want equal results, which is pretty absurd when you think about it
But I already know your next response. You won’t address the meat and potatoes of this issue, you’ll nitpick one minute detail about something i or someone else said while completely ignoring how fricking stupid y’all are
Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:56 am to goofball
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IMO a big issue with soccer in the US is Title IX nonsense that basically forces a lot of colleges to 86 men's soccer. I'm hoping that men's soccer becomes too popular to ignore though, and they find somewhere else to cut men's scholarships or a new sport to add more women's scholarships.
The elite men's soccer players, by the time they are 18, are part of development programs either through the national team, MLS, and/or club teams in other countries.
If you thought the best HS baseball players go straight to pro baseball, that is nothing compared to men's soccer.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:59 am to LSUFanHouston
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This is stupid.
We are Americans, we should pay based on results.
So the Women's team should be paid well and the Men's team, well, they deserve minimum wage for their minimum results.
The "results" are that the men bring in substantially more revenue.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:59 am to OMLandshark
Whelp, this should kill whatever momentum mens soccer had going in this country.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 11:02 am
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:00 am to Mr. Hangover
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But I already know your next response. You won’t address the meat and potatoes of this issue, you’ll nitpick one minute detail about something i or someone else said while completely ignoring how fricking stupid y’all are
Most likely spleeny will actually just ghost the thread.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:00 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Whelp, this should kill whatever momentum mens soccer had going in this country.
The men make the vast majority of their money playing for their clubs.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:03 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Crazy that you give people financial advice with takes this bad.
Lighten up Francis.
The reality is we DON'T pay for results. We pay based upon revenue produced... and the men's team, on the whole, produces far more revenue.
But I think there is a reason the men agreed to this.
The men on the national team get far more of their income from their club teams and from endorsements.
The pay they get from the national team is peanuts compared to that.
By them taking a pay cut on the national team... it's not really hurting them overall. They get to look "woke". And I would not be surprised if this new contract says something about them having to practice less / have less commitments for the national team.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:04 am to MikeD
Probably not. They do put butts in seats and sell jerseys on par with men's team historically.
I honestly don't GAF. I hope they both succeed, but let's not act like the Men's teams has ever been as close comeptively and even some years had less viewership as the women.
Bottom line men need to get their shite together on the field and the women need to stop bitching about pay that they collectively agreed to.
I honestly don't GAF. I hope they both succeed, but let's not act like the Men's teams has ever been as close comeptively and even some years had less viewership as the women.
Bottom line men need to get their shite together on the field and the women need to stop bitching about pay that they collectively agreed to.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 11:05 am
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:06 am to Duke
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The men make the vast majority of their money playing for their clubs.
And endorsements, etc.
It would be as if a Saints player and a Saintsation both went to a golf tournament to sign autographed pictures. The tournament is playing the Saints player $500 and the Saintsation $50.
The Saints player then says... nah... why don't you both pay us $275.
The Saints player gets to feel all proud of himself while not really missing that $225... while the Saintsation who gets paid crap will appreaciate that extra $225.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:09 am to LSUFanHouston
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The men on the national team get far more of their income from their club teams and from endorsements.
The men made an average of about $250k per year from the national team from what I understand. Pulisic, who is by far the best player and one of the only players in a huge league, makes like $8/year from his club.
That's 5% salary from the by far highest earner on the team. Some of these guys are liking looking at 15-25% of their on field earnings coming from the national team. So, no, it's not peanuts.
Eta: and the Federation subsidizes the women's league, which makes this even more bullshite. They are paying their national and league salaries both directly and indirectly
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 11:12 am
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:11 am to danilo
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Girlfriend and I discussed this. Of course she was upset I said women shouldn’t be paid the same
Dump her, she's unreasonable.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:15 am to OMLandshark
I have no problem with this for the national teams.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:15 am to OMLandshark
So we should drop all their salaries. The men are garbage anyway and the women get beat by youth all star teams.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:16 am to OMLandshark
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equal pay for men and women
except they're actually robbing from the men to give to the women. leftists have a talent for misnomers, i can't believe so many people fall for it.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:31 am to Mr. Hangover
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THAT’S your fricking hot take on this issue?
It’s my hottest take because I ultimately don’t really care that much. I watch soccer for entertainment, and what the players are making doesn’t have much bearing on that.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:32 am to The Spleen
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I watch soccer for entertainment, and what the players are making doesn’t have much bearing on that
Of course it does, but I'm not sure you're smart enough to realize that
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:34 am to Masterag
quote:I don’t think you understand what “robbing” actually is.
except they're actually robbing from the men to give to the women.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:35 am to OMLandshark
Not that I was ever a fan before, but this group of ungrateful cünts has made sure I will never watch a US women's soccer game again.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 11:38 am to OMLandshark
The economics of this have the potential to ruin the mens national team. But no worries as they are all equal now even though one brings in substantially more
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