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re: Upper-class parents are raising their children better than lower/middle-class
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:44 am to jlovel7
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:44 am to jlovel7
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No way my future kids get a cell phone before high school. I just see how these kids behave and I want no part of it.
The problem we've run into is that we don't have a home phone and my daughter is old enough to stay by herself for a few hours. Adding another line on my cell plan was like $20. Cheaper than a land line
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:44 am to Pecker
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Instead they'll buy ipads, large TVs, video game systems, and video games, and let those devices raise their children.
Do you know how much a tablet is these days? You can buy an Amazon Fire for like $50.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm stating that not everyone has the means to enrich their kids lives in the same manner as the "upper crust". Some parents work 2 jobs, can't afford child care, and granny watches them in the evening until mom or dad gets off work. Granny may not be able to drive after dark to shuttle these back and forth to different activities.
*I am definitely on the side of less screen time the better. I'm simply stating that situations differ. People shouldn't use electronic devices to exclusively entertain their developing child but I cant fault someone for doing what they can to entertain child so that household necessities can be accomplished.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 9:46 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:46 am to jlovel7
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No way my future kids get a cell phone before high school.
it's really easy to say this stuff when you don't have kids.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:47 am to Pecker
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Silicon Valley's low- and anti-tech parents may seem overly cautious, but they actually follow longstanding practices of former and current tech giants like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Tim Cook.
Is it so much that they care that much or they do it more for status and to be able to say "I do it just like them!"
Considering most of these parents probably work most hours of the week and don't see their kids that often, see Steve Jobs, I really wonder if this is more for the kid or for them.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:47 am to Pecker
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only for 10 minutes per week.
What's the point? I would just stick with outright ban.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:47 am to Pecker
Who wants their kids acting like Silicon Valley kids? My kids are raised how most of us were raised playing sports and playing outside in general while also enjoying video games and TV. If introducing my kids to looney tunes is wrong I don’t want to be right
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:48 am to Pecker
"Upper-class parents are raising their children"
could have just stopped right there
most people dont raise kids at all, they use "talks" and "time outs" rather then spankings and the kids turn out as spoiled rotten SJW cucks and snowflakes that schools teach to be america hating anti white racist socialists
could have just stopped right there
most people dont raise kids at all, they use "talks" and "time outs" rather then spankings and the kids turn out as spoiled rotten SJW cucks and snowflakes that schools teach to be america hating anti white racist socialists
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:48 am to MorbidTheClown
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it's really easy to say this stuff when you don't have kids.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Like Mike Tyson said, “Everybody has a plan... until they get punched in the mouth”
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:48 am to Pecker
My kids (4 & 5) watch a decent amount of TV, but they are not allowed to touch phones, ipads or my PS4 until they are older.
After an hour or so of TV, we turn it off and they have to go play outside or with their toys / books in their rooms. My 5 year old is already reading at a 1st or 2nd grade level according to her teacher and my 4 year old can do simple math problems in his head.
Yes, I'm bragging, but it is also relevant to the discussion because we choose to enrich our children rather than park them in front of an ipad, sapping them of natural childish imagination and discovery.
After an hour or so of TV, we turn it off and they have to go play outside or with their toys / books in their rooms. My 5 year old is already reading at a 1st or 2nd grade level according to her teacher and my 4 year old can do simple math problems in his head.
Yes, I'm bragging, but it is also relevant to the discussion because we choose to enrich our children rather than park them in front of an ipad, sapping them of natural childish imagination and discovery.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:49 am to Pecker
Good. I plan to raise my kids in a similar manner and luckily i have a wife who shares the same sentiment.
Idk to the extent we will do it but surely they wont be glued to a screen while theyre at home and growing up.
Idk to the extent we will do it but surely they wont be glued to a screen while theyre at home and growing up.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:51 am to jlovel7
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Right. But it needs to happen in moderation. You can't just give them unfiltered access and they still need a balance of real world interaction and social skills.
Absolutely. Moderation is the key to everything. These upper class parents aren’t doing any favors to their kids, but neither are parents that use the technology as a crutch
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:53 am to Pecker
I’m lower class and my kids rarely play with electronics
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:57 am to Pecker
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Upper-class parents are PAYING A NANNY TO RAISE their children better than lower/middle-class
Fixed it for you.
My 4 year old has an amazon fire tablet for kids that has puzzles and other learning apps. I have complete control over the content. It really is better for him that playing his trucks from a learning perpective. We limit the screen time and encourage other types of play time, but to say that all screen time is bad is a broad and oversimplified statement. My kid would love to grab my ipad and watch youtube videos all day, but we don't let that happen. It's pretty hard to complain about a 4 year old wanted to solve puzzles and playing educational games. Whether they are spread out on the table or with a 8" tablet isn't a big deal to me.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:58 am to MorbidTheClown
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it's really easy to say this stuff when you don't have kids.
What's different about what kids do now than what they did 10 years ago (when I was about to hit high school)? If they need to be picked up somewhere after practice or a friends house I knew what time my mom was getting me and my arse waited. If I wasn't there there was hell to pay. I am genuinely interested to learn though. What I don't want is a kid addicted to a smart phone and uses it all the time in school/in life just so its a little bit more convenient to get into contact with them. What about being a kid has changed so much that its now an absolute need instead of a want?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:01 am to Pecker
My wife and I were talking this am about how we thought you were rich if you owned a vcr. We would rent them on special occasions, and the whole process of going to the movie store (there was one on starring lane in the Howard Bros shopping center) and picking out movies (they had VHS and Beta), was a big part of the fun.
And trading games with friends. And typing in entire BASIC programs from the back of a magazine. Learning to program on our own.
And still spending the vast majority of daytime outside.
With today's technology, this seems nearly impossible to do these days. There was definitely an addictive quality to computers even back then, but you had to use your mind and work for it and apply creativity.
Kids can definitely do that on today's machines, but it's more likely they're getting brainwashed by games and watching porn and limiting real life communication via social media.
Instant gratification. Too many choices. No balance.
And trading games with friends. And typing in entire BASIC programs from the back of a magazine. Learning to program on our own.
And still spending the vast majority of daytime outside.
With today's technology, this seems nearly impossible to do these days. There was definitely an addictive quality to computers even back then, but you had to use your mind and work for it and apply creativity.
Kids can definitely do that on today's machines, but it's more likely they're getting brainwashed by games and watching porn and limiting real life communication via social media.
Instant gratification. Too many choices. No balance.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:02 am to jlovel7
Social media if we are being honest. Kids having access to electronics becoming a indicator of status. Just a couple of reasons.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:02 am to Areddishfish
So these parents are throwing a nanny/coach/piano teacher at their children instead of a phone. Both parents are punting the tough time consuming responsibility, the rich parents just have a fancier way to do it
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:03 am to SundayFunday
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I plan to raise my kids

Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:04 am to Pecker
I’m sure there are kids who spend too much time in front of phones or iPads but adults are just as bad. I do think the kids don’t play outside like we used to is way, way overblown. Kids are outside after school and on weekends all the time playing.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:07 am to Tyga Woods
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Like Mike Tyson said, “Everybodyth hath a plan... until they get punchth in te mouth”
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