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re: Upper-class parents are raising their children better than lower/middle-class
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:10 am to lsupride87
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:10 am to lsupride87
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So these parents are throwing a nanny/coach/piano teacher at their children instead of a phone. Both parents are punting the tough time consuming responsibility, the rich parents just have a fancier way to do it
There's a difference in development that comes with kids learning a second language, learning piano or other musical instruments, etc. vs playing fortnite for 5-8 hours a day.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:11 am to jlovel7
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What about being a kid has changed so much that its now an absolute need instead of a want?
Kids haven't changed, but the world around has. The world is infinitely more accessible. This is good and bad. Kids are curious by nature and seek out new things to entertain themselves. They now have access to electronic devices (maybe for small periods of time) that have incredible potential to access new information, games, etc.... They are going to act like crack addicts and try to increase their time spent on these devices because it feeds their curiosity.
These same devices mean adults are more accessible too. I find myself having to answer business calls at all hours on cell phone, or craft detailed email responses in the evenings with my family, to now what are referred to as "emergency" situations due to the fact that information can now found and passed along with the click of the button. Most everyone I know is in the same boat.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:12 am to Pecker
Video games have been around for 30+ years and I grew up constantly playing them. I don't see those as an issue at all.
Social media on the other hand, I completely agree with limiting our none at all until a certain age.
Social media on the other hand, I completely agree with limiting our none at all until a certain age.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:15 am to Pecker
What middle class parent can afford foreign language lessons in the rural south? Learning a piano is easy as there are plenty of teachers but what about any other classic instrument? How many cellists do you know in the mid south?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:16 am to Upperdecker
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Giving your kids access to technology early on gives them skills with technology later on, which is useful in almost any career field
That can be picked up in minutes. It's not like they're writing code. They're swiping a screen and clicking on icons. The future always belongs to those with skills that are not common. And going forward, the uncommon skill will be knowing how to interact with real people.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:17 am to DMagic
Do yall realize how heavy pianos are and how much space they take up? Frick that, maybe a keyboard though
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:17 am to McLemore
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My wife and I were talking this am about how we thought you were rich if you owned a vcr. We would rent them on special occasions, and the whole process of going to the movie store (there was one on starring lane in the Howard Bros shopping center) and picking out movies (they had VHS and Beta), was a big part of the fun.
And trading games with friends. And typing in entire BASIC programs from the back of a magazine. Learning to program on our own.
And still spending the vast majority of daytime outside.
With today's technology, this seems nearly impossible to do these days. There was definitely an addictive quality to computers even back then, but you had to use your mind and work for it and apply creativity.
Kids can definitely do that on today's machines, but it's more likely they're getting brainwashed by games and watching porn and limiting real life communication via social media.
Instant gratification. Too many choices. No balance.
And our grandparents' generation said the same about us for renting/buying a VCR when they used to just watch what was on TV. And their parents wondered why their kids' needed a tv when the radio is how families spent quality time together. And their parents probably complained that people spent too much time listening to the radio when they should be reading the newspaper and books. see a pattern yet?
New technology will always come along to make our lives more simple. And the older generations will shake their fist and ramble on about how that technology isn't needed while ignoring the fact that they took advantage of a different, new technology that wasn't "needed".
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:18 am to kingbob
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isolating them socially
They spend 8 hours a day with them at school and then if they are in sports even more time. When they get older they hang out on weekends, how are they isolated?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:18 am to Pecker
My friend is a pediatrician and he calls them psychopads because all the kids he sees for bed wetting and starting fires their parents let them use an iPad
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:19 am to DMagic
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What middle class parent can afford foreign language lessons in the rural south?
This is done in school. Most schools school private, or public, teach a second language. However, now there are opportunities like Rosetta Stone or Babbel where you can learn at home and inexpensive to attain. You would of course have to use technology (Ipad, computer, etc..) to use this language teaching tool.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:20 am to Saskwatch
Why would you want your kid to learn anything besides American?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:22 am to Pecker
So it's your opinion that the only criteria for being a better parent is less technology? 
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:23 am to Saskwatch
I meant anything other than Spanish. Romance is more prevalent but with tennis lessons, soccer, tball when can you get another language for a kid. Having too many activities is a detriment too.
I meant private lessons obviously
I meant private lessons obviously
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:23 am to ashy larry
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see a pattern yet?
Most people probably don’t think kids should never ever be on iPads or whatever. It’s the 5 y/o sitting in their room for hours and hours with a device 2” from their face and with a look of being completely hypnotized. And when out in public nothing changes b/c they are still stuck in a phone or iPad. Like I said, it’s somewhat overblown on the frequency of that but some parents do allow it to be an all day long thing. That’s much more screen time or radio time than me or any of my friends used to do. And outside of the home there was no options, today kids can literally be on them anywhere they go except school.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:24 am to Pecker
While I agree with both your comments and also those that you were debating against, I'll add that many kids become much more social (in person) because of their common interests in playing video games at home.
For example, every time I see my 8 year old son at school with his friends, they are all talking enthusiastically about video games and youtube videos. It's the one thing they all seem to have in common. If you restrict that part of their lives at home, they would be the outcast. Similar to kids when I was young that were never allowed to play sports. It's all about balance and not going overboard with electronics.
For example, every time I see my 8 year old son at school with his friends, they are all talking enthusiastically about video games and youtube videos. It's the one thing they all seem to have in common. If you restrict that part of their lives at home, they would be the outcast. Similar to kids when I was young that were never allowed to play sports. It's all about balance and not going overboard with electronics.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:25 am to Pecker
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Boissiere will go to great lengths to prevent her kids, 2-year-old Jack and 5-year-old Elise, from having even the most basic interactions with technology. She and her husband haven't installed any TVs in the house, and they avoid all cell-phone use in the kids' presence.
I can guarantee these kids are weird as frick.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:26 am to litenin
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. It's all about balance and not going overboard with electronics
Pecker doesn't know shite about raising kids in practice, so you'll have to forgive him.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:27 am to DMagic
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What middle class parent can afford foreign language lessons in the rural south? Learning a piano is easy as there are plenty of teachers but what about any other classic instrument? How many cellists do you know in the mid south?
I just don't buy this angle. There are countless examples of parents coming up with hundreds/thousands of dollars to pay for travel ball expenses and expensive electronics for their kids, but all of a sudden the money isn't there when we discuss activities that better serve their psychological/intellectual development.
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