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re: Upper-class parents are raising their children better than lower/middle-class

Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:28 am to
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:28 am to
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you restrict that part of their lives at home, they would be the outcast


I was a kid in the late 80s and early 90s and never had Nintendo or other games. I wasn’t an outcast, at least I didn’t realize it if I was

ETA: Except I feel like an outcast in this thread

This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:45 am
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:29 am to
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I meant anything other than Spanish.


They teach Mandarin Chinese in a lot of schools. I have nieces in two cities that are learning Mandarin at their respective schools (one private and one public).

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tennis lessons, soccer, tball when can you get another language for a kid


I don't think those sports are all in season at the same time. I come from a 4 child family, at some point my parents sat us down and let us each pick one sport for the year. My parents couldn't shuttle all the kids to multiple sports all the time.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:30 am to
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So these parents are throwing a nanny/coach/piano teacher at their children instead of a phone. Both parents are punting the tough time consuming responsibility, the rich parents just have a fancier way to do it


It's precisely this.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:33 am to
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It's precisely this.
no it’s not
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:34 am to
Upper class parents are probably upper class because they’re smarter and more driven than average. They’ll probably produce smarter/more driven kids based on genetics alone, understand the importance of education, and have more flexible schedules to interact with them. Upper class kids will go to better schools.

All of this without even introducing the tech aspect into the equation.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:36 am to
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no it’s not


It is. They're swapping an iPad for Theresa, their live-in nanny.

Both parents are lazy AF.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:37 am to
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Giving your kids access to technology early on gives them skills with technology later on, which is useful in almost any career field


nonsense
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33888 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:37 am to
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That can be picked up in minutes. It's not like they're writing code. They're swiping a screen and clicking on icons. The future always belongs to those with skills that are not common. And going forward, the uncommon skill will be knowing how to interact with real people.

Handing them an iPad vs having them learn how to use a computer and troubleshoot problems is a big difference
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35518 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:38 am to
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see a pattern yet? 



Of course. But Moore's Law is very real. It isn't the technology itself. But with the instant gratification and thirst for more increasing exponentially, the contrast becomes more stark.

The difference between listening to a radio and flipping through three TV stations isn't as stark as the difference between playing an Atari 2600 and programming a C-64 or TI99-4a and the full throttle insanity if smartphones, ipads, and the bottomless pit that is social media and the www generally.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:39 am to
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If you restrict that part of their lives at home, they would be the outcast.


Not among the upper class.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:41 am to
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They're swapping an iPad for Theresa, their live-in nanny.

Both parents are lazy AF.





You didn’t read. They’re swapping brain-numbing activities for activities that contribute to better psychological development. There’s an opportunity cost to children playing video games all day.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42502 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:42 am to
I love technology. I am a nerd and IT person. But I would love for my kids to not have anything to do with ipads. And it's our fault that they do. I don't mind them, but I wish my kids would have the same types of friends I had when I was a kid growing up. We always played outside damn near every day until dark, or until we had to do homework. We'd get together ride bikes, play football, basketball, baseball. We'd actually go knocking on their doors to see if they could come out to play. I hate this play date shite. I want my kids to be able to go beat on their friends door and tell them to come outside and ride bikes and shite. Maybe sneak off in the woods behind the house and look at some nudie mags. Fun stuff.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
22015 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:42 am to
Substituting masturbation for techie games is another good parenting method ot mentione did the article.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:43 am to
Hasn't it been established in past parent-bashing threads you started that you don't have kids of your own? Or am I confusing you with another troll?
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:46 am to
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Of course. But Moore's Law is very real. It isn't the technology itself. But with the instant gratification and thirst for more increasing exponentially, the contrast becomes more stark.

The difference between listening to a radio and flipping through three TV stations isn't as stark as the difference between playing an Atari 2600 and programming a C-64 or TI99-4a and the full throttle insanity if smartphones, ipads, and the bottomless pit that is social media and the www generally.


I was about to make a similar reply.

You're kidding yourself if you think today's devices are just what VCRs/TVs/Radios/Etc. were to previous generations.

There are experts coming out left and right warning that these devices (and social media) are addictive and psychologically damaging.

I can promise you there was never any similar concerns about VCRs and Radios. Why? Because eventually the show or movie ended, and you went along your day.

Today's devices provide a limitless supply of entertainment and distraction.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:46 am to
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Of course. But Moore's Law is very real. It isn't the technology itself. But with the instant gratification and thirst for more increasing exponentially, the contrast becomes more stark.



Agree. My coworkers kids get an hour of tv or computer a night but they are involved in skiing, swimming, music, fishing, hunting, sports etc.. and their lives are very structured

They'll probably hate him soon but will grow up more structured than most. Btw: he's not upper middle class.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:49 am to
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Hasn't it been established in past parent-bashing threads you started that you don't have kids of your own? Or am I confusing you with another troll?


He's making comment on an article he read. It's really more of a thread on childhood psychological development than it is on parenting. The parenting part is just a natural outgrowth of the topic.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:50 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46666 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:49 am to
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Agree. My coworkers kids get an hour of tv or computer a night but they are involved in skiing, swimming, music, fishing, hunting, sports etc.. and their lives are very structured


If I lived where you did, I'd rarely be indoors.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:49 am to
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You didn’t read. They’re swapping brain-numbing activities for activities that contribute to better psychological development. There’s an opportunity cost to children playing video games all day.


Letting a kid play on an ipad or sending him to piano lessons does not make someone a good parent one way or the other. You're confusing their extracurricular activities with parenting.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:50 am to
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Upper-class parents are raising their children better than lower/middle-class



Yep. Read Coming Apart by Charles Murry
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