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Update: Pilots in Ethiopian Air crash followed Boeing’s emergency procedures
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:00 pm
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Boeing’s lawyers better cancel all their plans.
Boeing’s lawyers better cancel all their plans.
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After turning off a flight-control system that was automatically pushing down the plane’s nose shortly after takeoff March 10, these people said, the crew couldn’t get the aircraft to climb and ended up turning it back on and relying on other steps before the final plunge killed all 157 people on board.
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The sequence of events, still subject to further evaluation by investigators, appears to undercut assertions by Boeing and the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration over the past five months that by simply following established procedures to turn off the suspect stall-prevention feature, called MCAS, pilots could overcome a misfire of the system and avoid ending in a crash.
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The pilots on Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 initially reacted to the emergency by shutting off power to electric motors driven by the automated system, these people said, but then appear to have re-engaged the system to cope with a persistent steep nose-down angle. It wasn’t immediately clear why the pilots turned the automated system back on instead of continuing to follow Boeing’s standard emergency checklist, but government and industry officials said the likely reason would have been because manual controls to raise the nose didn’t achieve the desired results.
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After first cranking a manual wheel in the cockpit that controls the same movable surfaces on the plane’s tail that MCAS had affected, the pilots turned electric power back on, one of these people said. They began to use electric switches to try to raise the plane’s nose, according to these people. But the electric power also reactivated MCAS, allowing it to continue its strong downward commands, the people said.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:04 pm to RedRifle
It is asinine to me that modern aircraft cannot revert to stick and rudder when the pilot wants total control.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:04 pm to RedRifle
Curious what 777tiger thinks of this latest news
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:04 pm to RedRifle
This may damage Boeing so bad that they never recover
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:07 pm to RedRifle
Like I've said before, U.S. airlines flying the MAX 8 were extremely fortunate they didn't put one in the ground before the Lion Air crash.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:10 pm to RedRifle
President Trump is right. These airplanes are way to complicated. To many electronic gadgets that can go kaput.
Lost 346 souls.

Lost 346 souls.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:12 pm to Reservoir dawg
The hardware is a marvel but the software is shite
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:13 pm to GeorgePaton
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President Trump is right. These airplanes are way to complicated. To many electronic gadgets that can go kaput
0 for 2
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:16 pm to RedRifle
Say what you want about Trump, but, at least he had the guts/common sense to override the FAA by grounding these things.
Seems someone needs to look into the Boeing-FAA lobby as clearly the FAA wasn’t doing it’s job when every other country on the planet grounded these planes.
Seems someone needs to look into the Boeing-FAA lobby as clearly the FAA wasn’t doing it’s job when every other country on the planet grounded these planes.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:23 pm to RedRifle
Boeing has a software glitch.
I can only imagine how hard it would be to find it.
I can only imagine how hard it would be to find it.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:37 pm to RedRifle
Napoleon has a good link to the description of what happened and how pilots have no shot, even if they know how to....which they can’t.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:51 pm to RedRifle
Boeing will still hire some a-hole hourly lawyers who thinks their shite doesn’t stink to try to blame the pilots or anyone else for the shitshow that it caused.
Loser pays might help cut the crap on both sides of PI lawsuits.
Loser pays might help cut the crap on both sides of PI lawsuits.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 3:19 am to RedRifle
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It wasn’t immediately clear why the pilots turned the automated system back on instead of continuing to follow Boeing’s standard emergency checklist
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Pilots in Ethiopian Air crash followed Boeing’s emergency procedures
Do what now?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 3:35 am to RedRifle
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The sequence of events, still subject to further evaluation by investigators,
Posted on 4/3/19 at 3:44 am to RedRifle
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according to these people.
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one of these people
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the people said
Posted on 4/3/19 at 5:39 am to RedRifle
Yeah.....they managed to get that plane all the way to the crash site....
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