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re: University of California abolishes sat/act testing requirement

Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:05 am to
Posted by Nigel Farage
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:05 am to
Its great how we continuously reduce our standards in education, business, and politics to accommodate these people. I am sure lowering our education standards because black and mexicans cant get their shite together wont have any long lasting consequences.

This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 8:06 am
Posted by marchballer
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:10 am to
I’m amazed that so many people here give a shite about what the UCs decided to do with its admission policy.

Then they feel the need to Discuss what the SAT/ACT was like 20 years ago when they took it.
Posted by Baldy
Member since May 2020
358 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:15 am to
Does any online school require these tests?
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:39 am to
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but those test are racist


FIFY
Posted by Jasons_MBA_Acct
Member since Oct 2017
115 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:44 am to
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This makes affirmative action less complicated, legally.


This is the reasoning, period. California outlawed race being considered in admissions. When the system became more numerically focused, the percentage of Asians rose considerably while other minorities shrank in numbers. Removing one of the main numerical inputs makes it much harder to judge between two students. The number of Asians enrolled is about to drop while other minorities rise.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:58 am to
oh 100% this is a very racist, anti-Asian policy
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:04 am to
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Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12984 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:27 am to
i only scored a 23 but graduated with a 3.5 in electrical engineering at LSU, those tests are worthless

i would get hit heavy on the reading section because im not a fast reader
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35408 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:31 am to
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I got a 24 on my ACT, a 1530 SAT, 37 on MCAT, and Mother told me once my IQ was 165. I graduated from Delgado. 
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 9:35 am to
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If you want to go out of state you take the test because serious schools require it. That sample is smarter than the first.



No, that's wrong. All the top schools (e.g., Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford) are taking steps to bolster their application numbers. They are willing to trade higher acceptance rates for steady admission rates. It is the best year in recent memory to apply to the Ivies, in fact, many are over-admitting by 5-10% with the expectation that some students won't enroll come Fall.

And just FYI, the UC system has the two top-ranked public schools in the country, both of which are ranked higher than, say, Tulane. Hard to say UCLA and Berkeley are not 'serious' schools.

This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 9:38 am
Posted by EmperorGout
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Member since Feb 2008
11270 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:21 am to
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Its great how we continuously reduce our standards in education, business, and politics to accommodate these people. I am sure lowering our education standards because black and mexicans cant get their shite together wont have any long lasting consequences.




Have you heard about legacy admissions and Ivy League schools
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:28 am to
I made a 19 on the ACT. 26 in English and 11 in math
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:30 am to
California should be its own country. Full on retard mode over there.

Those tests do mean something. What do you trust? A well-rounded standardized test or an inflated 4.0 gpa from someone who turns in all his homework at some dump public school?
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 10:30 am
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:31 am to
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don't know if you remember taking the ACT


I do.

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they had some really stupid subjective questions


Just because you don’t understand their intent doesn’t mean they’re stupid. Most of those questions are IQ and prep questions.

If you took a prep course they prepare you for what to look for and how to answer those questions. Or if you’re natural skilled in puzzle solving and logic games you can figure out the pattern they’re showing and how to play the game.

Both your ability and effort in prep work and base IQ are good things for a college to know, right? Especially when determining academic scholarships and competitive limited entry spots.

The point is not everyone can or even should go to college.

The greatest lie sold to our youth right now is that you have to attend a 4 year university to do anything.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with learning a trade and there is no reason we can’t have a shorter two year system for basic business, accounting, and economic principles.
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 10:34 am
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:51 am to
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The greatest lie sold to our youth right now is that you have to attend a 4 year university to do anything


As a math teacher at a pretty good high school, this is so true. It all starts with the parents feeding their kids these lies. It’s like parents don’t want to be the parents whose kids don’t go to college because then their parent friends will look down on them or something. It’s fricking stupid. I always tell my classes that going to college is not the only way to be successful.
Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:00 am to
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This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 6:31 pm
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:15 am to
California is such a shite hole.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19252 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:33 am to
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It’s like parents don’t want to be the parents whose kids don’t go to college because then their parent friends will look down on them or something.


Class anxiety is certainly part of it.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:38 am to
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hose scores in and of themselves were subjective anyway.


Wait. A standardized test score is subjective?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5711 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 12:29 pm to
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A lot of people will here will probably shite on this because it's California but those test are worthless


Yea because it's not like some schools or entire school systems inflate their grades. It's been awhile but didn't a NO school's valedictorian not pass 10th grade level testing or something like that and finding out they inflated grades of the good kids to give them a chance to get away from the crap.

I do agree to point that tests may be over emphasized and that there shouldn't be a micro economy based on tutoring and improving test scores along with students taking them too many times; but without some standard test and rating system for students, schools, & school systems (including across states) GPA is hard to use outside of comparisons of students taking same classes within individual schools and some school districts that work on consistency or that don't have magnet or charter schools while letting the rest go to hell (even then whether new or other reasons top 10% of one school wouldn't all be in 10% in next school 2 miles away which along with filling out sport teams in one HS near us at the time was reasoning for some to seek transfers from our assigned HS to a newer school that several years ago started with just a freshman class and had a lot of open slots to fill out JR and SR classes).
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