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re: University of California abolishes sat/act testing requirement

Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:00 pm to
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University of California abolishes sat/act testing

Without reading why, I'm guessing the reasoning is standardized tests are racist?
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 7:05 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48285 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:01 pm to
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You are either smart or your parents could afford a prep class


Prep classes help but they aren’t raising someone with below average intelligence to some significant ACT score
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11260 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:01 pm to
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You do understand the financial situation going on right now, don't you?


UC schools routinely dominate the top 10 lists of most applications received in the entire country. Don't make me google.

If you think this is financially driven you're out of your mind. The affirmative action argument is the one you need to be making if you wanna go full conservative loon
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 7:02 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134808 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:04 pm to
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UC schools routinely dominate the top 10 lists of most applications received in the entire country. Don't make me google.


I'm not arguing that, dipshit. I'm saying they need as much funding as possible right now. Their classes are going 100% online until the end of the year. Eliminating ACT/SAT allows them to accept an infinite amount of online students who pay for classes.

This isn't rocket science, brainiac.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68241 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:05 pm to
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A lot of people will here will probably shite on this because it's California but those test are worthless




I bet you didnt break 20 on the act
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11260 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:07 pm to
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I'm not arguing that, dipshit. I'm saying they need as much funding as possible right now. Their classes are going 100% online until the end of the year. Eliminating ACT/SAT allows them to accept an infinite amount of online students who pay for classes.

This isn't rocket science, brainiac.


They are not now and never have been hurting for bodies there Einstein
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134808 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:08 pm to
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They are not now and never have been hurting for bodies there Einstein

It's money. They're hurting for money. Money.

You fricking idiot.

Goddamn.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36553 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:08 pm to
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I'm not arguing that, dipshit. I'm saying they need as much funding as possible right now. Their classes are going 100% online until the end of the year. Eliminating ACT/SAT allows them to accept an infinite amount of online students who pay for classes.


That's no different than Oklahoma/OSU saying they'll be open on the fall just for all the Dallas money.

If there is one good thing covid could do, its gut all the fat universities have brought on themselves
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:10 pm to
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A lot of people will here will probably shite on this because it's California but those test are worthless

Hit us with the “knew a guy who got like a 34 and ended up flunking out of college” anecdote
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134808 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:11 pm to
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If there is one good thing covid could do, its gut all the fat universities have brought on themselves



Unfortunately, that's not going to happen any time soon. They'll get bailed out rather than fix their business model. It's going to be a long, drawn out, expensive death.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38616 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:12 pm to
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Be a good way to boost their state ranking.



UC system is already one of the best state college systems in the country. Mediocre kids go to Arizona or Colorado universities.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28331 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:12 pm to
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Good. shite was pointless and stressful anyway.


How would like your 3.5 gpa from a good to very good high school to get overlooked in lieu of someone from a shite school with a 4.0? In places it’s not uncommon for a 4.0 student to get a <20 act score Bc the curriculum was trash.
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11260 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:12 pm to
They don't need to alter jack shite to have an enormous applicant pool which they have every single fricking year. Those scores in and of themselves were subjective anyway.

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36553 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:13 pm to
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Hit us with the “knew a guy who got like a 34 and ended up flunking out of college” anecdote




Hit me with the ”34” that needed the act to prove he was smart

It's the dipshits like me that need a class to get a 27 that are tricking the world or at least giving colleges an excuse to take my parents money
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 7:14 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:21 pm to

The UC system is probably the most selective overall state system in the country.


Berkeley, UCLA and UCSD are among the toughest public universities in the country and Santa Cruz, Davis and Santa Barbara tougher than most large state schools.

I'm sure the measures the UC system uses to replace the SAT and ACT will be quite strenuous.


This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20839 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:22 pm to
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They need to look at the whole picture of the incoming student, not just the assessment scores.


They already do this.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36553 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:28 pm to
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The UC system is probably the most selective overall state system in the country.



You are talking to a bunch of baws that needed the act to get waitlisted by lsu over a 3.5 mckinley grad
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:39 pm to
What’s your replacement? Just go off GPA?
Posted by oliveandblue
Member since Nov 2014
1669 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:50 pm to
Online education is a great thing for the right person. This outbreak will mean that people who are working professionals can go for additional education from a wider array of established schools.

Higher education is going to be reformed - for the better.
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2098 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:55 pm to
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I'm sure the measures the UC system uses to replace the SAT and ACT will be quite equitable.

I will be shocked if I am wrong.

No this isn't the end of the world. Nothing ever is. It is simply another instance in a string of never ending instances in the educational world to lower the standards to be more equitable.

I would be pleasantly surprised to be wrong, but I doubt it.

The tests are tough and stressful and you need to be smart or work hard to do well. I see nothing wrong with those attributes. No way there is the same level of education nationally in each school. Grade inflation is very very real for equity reasons. This was a method of objectively figuring out where a student stood as a piece of the resume.
Now we move from objective to more subjective. The left's version of preferred subjective usually.

Maybe I am way off. Maybe there is much more to the story than the headline and beginning of article. I am open to hearing a different perspective.
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