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Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:39 pm to Chicken
Chicken, you have made it very clear that if a cop illegally kills someone after said person denies them of an illegal search warrant, you would blame the dead and not the cop who broke the law
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:40 pm to lsupride87
Pretty much defends murder. Case closed.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:41 pm to shel311
quote:
You don't know as a fact that he was trespassing, signs point to quite the opposite, actually.
United says they asked him to leave and he refused.
Case closed.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:41 pm to NYNolaguy1
It is the discretion of a he airline on how they treat them, if it was a mechanic going to fix a broken aircraft he bumps rev passengers too.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:41 pm to shel311
quote:perhaps a mistake was made by someone who didn't know rules...still doesn't make me feel sorry for the guy...he was acting erratic.
Irrelevant...I expected United to know, wouldn't you?
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:42 pm to shel311
quote:
Aviation attorneys who know more than you and I say otherwise.
No, they don't.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:42 pm to lsupride87
Nah, I never replied to your scenario.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:42 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Case closed
Out of business
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:43 pm to Chicken
The only erratic behavior I am aware of came when he reboarded the plane after having six shades of shite kicked out of him.
Even then, it was a mantra of "I have to get home."
Even then, it was a mantra of "I have to get home."
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:43 pm to shel311
quote:
Who do you think knows more about this, you or aviation attorneys who know the law and have read United's Contract of Carriage?
Depends. I'm correct. If they disagree, I'd say that I know more.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:43 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
It is the discretion of a he airline on how they treat them, if it was a mechanic going to fix a broken aircraft he bumps rev passengers too.
That's great, but if a passenger doesn't agree to that in the contract it doesn't mean anything.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:44 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Case closed.
Nope. You're clueless.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:44 pm to Chicken
Cop comes to house
Asks you to step outside because they need to search your home
They don't have warrant
You refuse
They try to enter house
You get in their way and try to prevent them from entering
You scream at them
Bang bang bang
The cop kills you
Everything you have posted would have you blame the person killed, and not the cop
Asks you to step outside because they need to search your home
They don't have warrant
You refuse
They try to enter house
You get in their way and try to prevent them from entering
You scream at them
Bang bang bang
The cop kills you
Everything you have posted would have you blame the person killed, and not the cop
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:44 pm to shel311
quote:your experts are retarded
Experts in the field seem to say otherwise...
Flight crews needed to replace others that may have timed out are may be needed for operations will go......everytime.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:44 pm to lsupride87
Nice try...your scenario has nothing to do with my comments.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:44 pm to Hangit
quote:Yep, for those I've been quoting constantly saying something as so and i keep bring up the experts...
According to other posters on here, aviation attorneys, having read all pertinent documents, say they had no right to have him removed.
LINK
quote:
“Certainly you can be involuntarily bumped,“ aviation attorney Joseph LoRusso told CBS4’s Kelly Werthmann. “Can you be forcibly removed in a situation like this? That’s where we get into a bit of a gray area.”
quote:
However, LoRusso questions if United Airlines was within its legal right to ask flight 3411 passengers for their seats because standby crew should not have priority over paying customers.
“Were we really dealing with selling more tickets than we had seats? It doesn’t seem like that’s the case, at which point the overbooking protocol seems to be unwarranted,” LoRusso said.
And another...
LINK
Aviation attorney Arthur Wolk says he read all 45 pages of United’s Contract of Carriage and he believes the airline violated its own contract.
quote:
“I want to assure United Airlines they had absolutely no right to remove that man from the airplane. Absolutely no right to forcibly remove him from an airplane. They’re in trouble.”
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:That's not how this works. They have policies, and they must abide by them. Just because some low level employee says someone must leave, if that order is counter to policy, then it doesn't automatically become OK because "the employee said so."
United says they asked him to leave and he refused.
Case closed.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:45 pm to Chicken
quote:Please explain the difference
Nice try...
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:45 pm to lsupride87
quote:your airline seat is never your property
Everything you have posted would have you blame the person killed, and not the cop
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