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Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:30 pm to Chicken
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good luck with that
Should I be fearful of following the law?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:31 pm to tigerfoot
quote:Experts in the field seem to say otherwise...
Those non rev passengers are just as much passengers as anyone.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:31 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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the legal minds are saying he had a right to be there.
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No, they aren't.
According to other posters on here, aviation attorneys, having read all pertinent documents, say they had no right to have him removed.
There is also a problem with them having the ability to up their offers for a volunteer and choosing to bully him instead.
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Tempura?
Food reference to a battered Asian style of cooking.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:31 pm to tigerfoot
quote:If it's "so clear" why is it that multiple aviation attorneys all have the same opinion, which is the opposite of what you're saying?
the basis that clearly says he can be removed from the flight for appropriate reasons
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:32 pm to Chicken
quote:That's irrelevant, but I'm sure most people would wonder what right an airline had to force someone from the seat he/she had already occupied.
yet we expect this crankpot doctor to know his rights in this case?
Those in power don't get to abuse it because those who they abuse may not know their rights.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:34 pm to Chicken
quote:Ok, but that doesn't make the other side of it odd.
what is truly odd is getting killed or injured because you resisted a police order.
You've basically insinuated or flatly said you'd have no empathy for the dude killed by cops(in the hypo) overstepping their boundaries, but I guess you would have empathy for the cop if he was then sentenced to jail time? I can only assume that since you never said you'd have no empathy for them.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:34 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:ok. Crew members take priority
They were crew members en route to work, not voucher recipients.
They use a non rev voucher or swipe as well. Something is exchanged for their boarding pass
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I provided a link with quotes already, you're wrong.
No, they aren't.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:35 pm to tigerfoot
quote:Experts in the field say otherwise...broken record here.
But whether a mistake or not they can deny your travel based on needing 1 seat for every passenger.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:36 pm to tigerfoot
what I dont get is in an overbooked flight. why would you allow people to board?
I have seen people be denied boarding for an overbooked flight, but have never heard of them going on the plane and telling people they have to get off because someone else needs their seat.
I have seen people be denied boarding for an overbooked flight, but have never heard of them going on the plane and telling people they have to get off because someone else needs their seat.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:37 pm to tigerfoot
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Let's go w this then
Thanks for actually responding.
Rule 25 refers to people who were denied boarding. He boarded. He handed over his boarding pass and the gate attendant accepted it. The then took his seat.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:37 pm to shel311
tigerfoot looks so freaking dumb
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:37 pm to tigerfoot
quote:The charge nurse or Security to get the restraints.
you know who the hospital calls when they can't control a belligerent patient? I'll give you one guess
Not a cop, fwiw, if that's what you're insinuating.
I've worked at a hospital for 15 years now, we don't call the cops for belligerent patients, we handle it ourselves.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:37 pm to Napoleon
quote:They quite possibly did not have this right, legally speaking...
It's true they had every right to remove anyone on the plane
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:38 pm to shel311
quote:link? Pretty sure i ignored that one.
You've basically insinuated or flatly said you'd have no empathy for the dude killed by cops(in the hypo) overstepping their boundaries
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:38 pm to Chicken
quote:Irrelevant...I expected United to know, wouldn't you?
So aviation lawyers may not know for sure if United had the right to pull him off the plane, yet we expect this crankpot doctor to know his rights in this case?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:39 pm to shel311
That is why the clipboards they carry are so heavy... I know EMTs who "accidentally" whack a problem patient in the head while doing their write up.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:39 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
Let's go w this then
quote:Experts are saying this was NOT an overbooking situation since the flight was not overbooked.
All of UA’s flights are subject to overbooking which could result in UA’s inability to provide previously confirmed reserved space for a given flight or for the class of service reserved. In that event, UA’s obligation to the Passenger is governed by Rule 25.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:39 pm to shel311
The super duper attorneys are missing out in about 40000 cases of year. This illegal outrage will occur about 590 times tomorrow
these world class aviation attorneys should jump in that
these world class aviation attorneys should jump in that
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