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re: UNH's UnitedHealth CEO shot and killed

Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:07 pm to
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HEY, BUDDY!

Have I ever told you that you're my favorite poster here?

Truly the best!



I don't know about that. I made an amazing John Q reference on the previous page and it didn't get any traction
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 2:10 pm
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:07 pm to
We weren't too far away from Biden admin telling private Healthcare to mandate covid jabs or cancel coverage. It was about 2 exits ahead and may have happened with a liberal Supreme Court
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:08 pm to
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We weren't too far away from Biden admin telling private Healthcare to mandate covid jabs or cancel coverage. It was about 2 exits ahead and may have happened with a liberal Supreme Court



I mean, I'm not doubting you. I've just seen your posts and would like to have that confirmed by someone who wouldn't need to cheat on a flu test
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
93627 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:08 pm to
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The sequel to John Q is insane


It really is insane!

The most insane.

I completely agree with you!
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41547 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Company screws people for a living

Acts shocked when someone gets their pound of flesh


I have United.

Don't put me on the shooter's jury pool unless you want him to walk free.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32756 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:13 pm to
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Gunman was seen pacing outside the hotel prior to the shooting.


Any indication of how long he was waiting?
Posted by FredbullTN
Houston
Member since Sep 2023
5570 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:19 pm to
I understand that point of view. You wouldn’t expect that a professional wouldn’t have a weapon that has a malfunction with every squeeze of the trigger. But there could be a reason for that. Did he travel to the city and have to rely on someone else for that pistol? Does his past prevent him from buying? Even if he could legally possess a firearm he isn’t walking into a gun store to purchase a firearm he is taking on a hit. The tool he used isnt the indicator here. He didn’t let equipment prevent him from completing the job.

The way he didn’t hesitate to clear the malfunction suggests he has some sort of experience either in military/law enforcement, or he has done something like this in the past. Your average Joe blow even with training would fumble around. This was smooth and as cold as it gets. This guy looks like someone who has done some shite in his past. More than just training.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79985 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:20 pm to
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While I’m not going to celebrate a murder this is what happens you make a system that enables profit over health. Monetizing healthcare means companies will absolutely hit a point where they value their bottom line over the health of some of their own customers
And socialized medicine doesn't deny care? Gtfo.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:22 pm to
The gun could be some shitty "print" that he knew was going to malfunction but still get the job done. Would be harder/impossible to trace. Maybe he knew that it was going to malfunction but silence and portability were more important than time against an undefended, unaware target.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79985 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Everybody who is hemming and clutching their pearls definitely got both mRNA shots
Or don't have the same sociopathic, marxist tendencies you and others in this thread do.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:22 pm to
There’s a reason why American healthcare never places in the top 10
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:23 pm to
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And socialized medicine doesn't deny care? Gtfo.



Not to mention that it is almost always a shittier standard of care
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79985 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:26 pm to
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There’s a reason why American healthcare never places in the top 10
Yeah, a significantly unhealthy underclass.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:29 pm to
That’s one factor yes, but America is the only first world nation that deals with things like outrageous healthcare bills bad denial of care
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5635 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:29 pm to
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Don't put me on the shooter's jury pool unless you want him to walk free.


Pathetic. We don't let deranged murderers walk free in America because we are displeased with corporate policies.

A lot of bitter quasi-lunatics in this thread. People think reality is a Batman movie.

Improper denial of coverage certainly warrants lawsuits, or legislation, or reform, but never cold-blooded executions. That's not how things work in a democracy predicated on the rule of law. Murder is a tragedy and the perpetrator should spend the rest of his miserable, petty days in jail. We should never celebrate or condone it. It isn't justice. It's weak derangement, not to mention cowardly beyond belief to ambush an unarmed man.

We don't even know what precipitated the murder. Could have been a lover's spat or a hit from a criminal organization.

This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted by FredbullTN
Houston
Member since Sep 2023
5570 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:30 pm to
True
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37061 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:30 pm to
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That’s one factor yes, but America is the only first world nation that deals with things like outrageous healthcare bills bad denial of care

We also have the highest quality of care in the world
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19618 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:32 pm to
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There’s a reason why American healthcare never places in the top 10


By who's metric? What are their criteria?

I just don't buy it. The U.S. has the best medical research hospitals and universities in the world (Germany might be close).

If their metric is "uninsured people" which the Europeans love to bash us for, well there is no such thing. If there is an emergency, you get care at any hospital (it's the law). If you need to see a PCP, there are ways to go about it without insurance.

The Europeans believe that we let people fall over on the street and die. It's simply not true. Emergency care is free for anyone, even illegals, which is why the rest of our healthcare costs are outrageous.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:39 pm to
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They need to be tired of government greed but it's a well designed ruse people continue to fall for.


Health insurance and student loans share the common benefit to society of jacking up prices caused by artificial demand. If health insurance companies magically disappeared overnight you'd see the price of all health care costs drop instantly.
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