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re: UNH's UnitedHealth CEO shot and killed

Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:11 pm to
Real talk, how to you function day to day with such debilitating autism?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:12 pm to
I don't disagree but it's probably the hardest. But the biggest demographic of unhealthy are the poor. They're the most non compliant. The most expensive. The sickest. AND the ones who don't pay for their coverage in the first place.

With a fee for service payment system, it's getting exactly what you would expect. Too costly and poor results.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77267 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:13 pm to
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Litigious fat asses are the main reason. Go sit in an emergency room for 3 hours once a month and you'll understand more.
The legal system isn’t a big factor.

Those “fatasses” are costing an exorbitant amount for all of the “Wasteful treatments, diagnostics and procedures, overuse, abuse, fraud”.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79985 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:16 pm to
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The legal system isn’t a big factor
It promotes defensive medicine and prompts many docs to order diagnostics that are less likely to provide useful information.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77267 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:17 pm to
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I don't disagree but it's probably the hardest. But the biggest demographic of unhealthy are the poor. They're the most non compliant. The most expensive. The sickest. AND the ones who don't pay for their coverage in the first place.
Agreed, which is why you have to address it in other ways.

I am a proponent of only allowing welfare to be used on a limited supply of food types.

On top of that, have a base level of funding. Require physical examinations with “rewards” for good health.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:18 pm to
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He most likely had security as a driver waiting for him outside.


He walked from his hotel to the Hilton where he was shot.

quote:

Its difficult to provide security 24/7 for anyone


True, but this is the CEO of a huge company. They can afford to hire a few retired special forces dudes to provide security.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Random or targeted?


Bruh...
Posted by Dr Lecter
Baltimore, MD
Member since Oct 2012
1344 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:19 pm to
Nuremberg code?

That’s a set of ethical guidelines for research.


So, I’ve yet to see what charges a prosecutor will bring forward. Please tell me
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:21 pm to
There was very little information when this thread was started
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87997 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:22 pm to
Give me Rummy’s admin spot
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Agreed, which is why you have to address it in other ways.


Agreed. It needs to be revitalized from a payment platform perspective getting into more risk based or bulk contracts with plans and providers. It needs to be addressed from a healthy member perspective. It needs to be addressed from a subsidy perspective making the healthy and financially stable pay for the sick and poor.

The entire system is fricked right now and it would be one thing to be fricked if we were healthy we're not and we're getting worse.
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
15297 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:23 pm to
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They need to be tired of government greed but it's a well designed ruse people continue to fall for.


Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57069 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:30 pm to
No arguments. I don’t think it’s either or but I do think one is a bigger issue than the other.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79985 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:32 pm to
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The entire system is fricked right now and it would be one thing to be fricked if we were healthy we're not and we're getting worse
That's the fault of the people in a comfortable, sedentary country.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37061 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:32 pm to
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I have to assume one benefit the police will have in catching this suspect is it occurred in Manhatten which most likely has cameras covering almost every inch of space. The police will be able to follow the suspect for a long time by camera.

Both a positive and a negative. On the plus side there are cameras in all sorts of areas, downside is that there are so many people in Manhattan that if the suspect can evade cameras for a moment and change clothing he can be lost in a sea of people fairly easily.

ETA: you can't even rely on things like cell phone pings because they are just too many people in a general area.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 12:38 pm
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:34 pm to
Yeah but I mean for good. Like never caught. Seems like he's off to the perfect start
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
80894 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:36 pm to
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Both a positive and a negative. On the plus side there are cameras in all sorts of areas, downside is that there are so many people in Manhattan that if the suspect can evade cameras for a moment and change clothing he can be lost in a sea of people fairly easily.


Yeah and he looks fairly "normal". Change into a suit and tie somewhere and he's 90% home.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2957 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:38 pm to
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populist movement in this country is in complete control.


This is a Marxist movement. Eat the rich is all about envy and greed, but not from the people who are being accused of it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:39 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 9:21 pm
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