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re: UNH's UnitedHealth CEO shot and killed
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:48 am to HeLeakin
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:48 am to HeLeakin
Prol some guy who had enough dealing with coverage or a claim. I get it. Frustrating as hell. Not worth killing over. We got denied for a therapeutic treatment for a autoimmune disorder and never felt more frustrated or helpless. Boggled my mind that we pay for all this insurance, had in network Drs saying she needs a medication and denied for 3 months. Eventually, after several calls/letters from me and the Drs it was approved but what a rollercoaster. That was BCBS.
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:54 am to DakIsNoLB
quote:Oh absolutely not.
Going to have just start letting people go when they get cancer. Treating it is expensive and a big strain on the system.
Expensive treatments aren't the issue. Wasteful treatments, diagnostics and procedures, overuse, abuse, fraud are. It's why the US healthcare system is failing. It's just expensive...it's expensive and doesn't produce results correlative to the cost. High cost and poor outcomes. the solution to that isn't focusing on spending more money, it's demanding better results.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:56 am to IamNotaRobot
Wife reports he had been receiving threats.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:57 am to LSUfan4444
Yeah, i doubt anyone is begrudging paying for treatable cancers.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:57 am to LSUfan4444
quote:
Wasteful treatments, diagnostics and procedures, overuse, abuse, fraud are.
Who makes this determination? Surely you are not suggesting that an employee of the insuance company is impartial.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:58 am to LSUfan4444
quote:
High cost and poor outcomes. the solution to that isn't focusing on spending more money, it's demanding better results.
Again, a major reason for both high cost and poor outcomes is due to our population. Fat, lazy, unhealthy, and irresponsible for their own choices is extremely difficult and extremely expensive to overcome.
Comparing our healthcare to places like Sweden or Japan in these aspects is absolutely absurd.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:58 am to Chicken
quote:
Random or targeted?
CEO’s of any major organization at any level never “randomly” get shot and killed. Never. 100% of the time.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:58 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
You started a thread during covid advocating for posters to drop whatever they were doing and take up arms against anyone who tried to impose covid mandates.
He also openly called to commit violence against the officials in the '22 Egg Bowl that got him banned for over a year.
Dude is unhinged.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:00 pm to baldona
quote:This.
Fat, lazy, unhealthy, and irresponsible for their own choices is extremely difficult and extremely expensive to overcome.
Everyone wants to blame the system when they are 90% of the problem.
If Americans weren’t so lazy, fat, and unhealthy, this would be a significantly smaller issue.
quote:Unless I am mistaken, in Japan, you take a yearly physical exam and you pay more if you are unhealthy.
Comparing our healthcare to places like Sweden or Japan in these aspects is absolutely absurd.
There should be consequences for shitty choices.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:01 pm to cgrand
I have to assume one benefit the police will have in catching this suspect is it occurred in Manhatten which most likely has cameras covering almost every inch of space. The police will be able to follow the suspect for a long time by camera.
Suspect escaped on a bike and looks younger, or least does not appear to be older. Seems very likely it was someone that maybe lost a baby or wife.
Suspect escaped on a bike and looks younger, or least does not appear to be older. Seems very likely it was someone that maybe lost a baby or wife.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:01 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
Wife reports he had been receiving threats.
Then he should have security.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:03 pm to baldona
quote:
a major reason for both high cost and poor outcomes is due to our population. Fat, lazy, unhealthy, and irresponsible for their own choices is extremely difficult and extremely expensive to overcome.
Agreed. It's not the only reason but it's a big one.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:04 pm to TDTOM
quote:
Wife reports he had been receiving threats.
Then he should have security.
Its not like security is the secret service. He most likely had security as a driver waiting for him outside. Its difficult to provide security 24/7 for anyone
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:04 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:If that was the only factor addressed, the cost of medical care would probably drop by over half.
Agreed. It's not the only reason but it's a big one.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:05 pm to TDTOM
quote:should've
Then he should have security.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:07 pm to Jcorye1
I doubt that.
I bet is a guy who lost a family member because UH wouldn't cover the procedure.
People tend to get mean when you frick w/ their family.
Either way the dude didn't deserve to die
I bet is a guy who lost a family member because UH wouldn't cover the procedure.
People tend to get mean when you frick w/ their family.
Either way the dude didn't deserve to die
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:08 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Unless I am mistaken, in Japan, you take a yearly physical exam and you pay more if you are unhealthy.
Spreading out the financials risks
Spreading out the financial benefits
Holding those accountable for costly services hat do not produce healthy outcomes. Rewarding those that do.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:09 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:
You make it sound so easy. Why not go out and do it then?
Someone else making money does not make it less possible for you to do so. The pie is not finite. Somehow that mindset has pervaded many in this country and I think it's the new obsession with finding a way to be a victim.
It is when you regulate the shite out of everything and create a massive input cost to even try and innovate anything.
It is ABSOLUTELY much easier to be a lawyer in terms of risk than it is to try to create new medicines or build homes.
It is ABSOLUTELY easier to be a finance guy that shifts product around an excel spreadsheet than it is to be the guy that tries to create an improved product.
A economy rich in bankers and lawyers goes nowhere except down an endless hole of finance and laws.
It is ABSOLUTELY easier to be a non-innovator that does nothing but restrict the paths of those who want to actually improve the physical conditions of our lives.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:10 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:As should be the case, but the USA is fricking retarded.
Holding those accountable for costly services hat do not produce healthy outcomes. Rewarding those that do.
We punish those who choose appropriately while rewarding those who act inappropriately or selfishly.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:11 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:Nope. Litigious fat asses are the main reason. Go sit in an emergency room for 3 hours once a month and you'll understand more.
Wasteful treatments, diagnostics and procedures, overuse, abuse, fraud are. It's why the US healthcare system is failing
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