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re: Unemployed Americans Endure Longer Job Searches in a Cooling Market

Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:08 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86225 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:08 am to
I thought deporting people would cause a massive labor shortage?


Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9796 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:38 am to
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It usually takes a person with good potential(the key words) two years to become a good diesel tech/mechanic.
Even then, most techs usually start out by changing oil.
If they are lucky, they can get with an experienced tech who is patient and is willing to train/mentor them.

An electrician usually starts out pulling wire, carrying supplies and materials, digging ditches...

The same can be said just about all trades that has the potential for a young person to make a good living.


Maybe an unpopular stance here, but I think this discourages a lot of people who would otherwise be good tradespeople.

If I have the ability to be a good electrician, I'm not a dummy. I can go do something that will have less impact on my body. Riskier in today's market? Sure. But if I decide to go to school, get a STEM degree, and I manage to find a decent job with a decent company, I'll out earn the electrician very quickly, even when comparing the 5 year head start the electrician has in pay as well as compound interest from putting away for retirement.

Go become an electrician, start at $18 an hour, end at let's say $38 an hour. That's about $75k when you're a journeyman, you have the skills to work wherever you want, potentially even start your own shop. However, you get hazed and given shite work for the first 18-24 months, you have to pass some weird acceptance phase where older trades frick with you and make you feel dumb for asking questions, and then you're expected to (informally) uphold that tradition.

frick that. That seems a lot like a path for someone with limited other options. If you want actually smart people to do trades, you make it more enticing. No bitch work for the sake of bitch work, set mandated wire pulling hours and once you're done with that you're done. It can't be at the discretion of some 40 something year old journeyman who is pissed that he didn't have the gumption or acumen to start his own shop.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1733 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:27 am to
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Adults, like kids need to be supervised. For every 1 employee that’s excels from home, there’s 20 more at the dog park, playing golf, or doing the bare minimum required during the work week. It is what it is.


My team was more productive during WFH. They took less days off and got more work done. We were actually more productive with a smaller WFH team than our current larger office team. Of course that's not always the case but it's pretty common for that to happen. A lot of older managerial staff just didn't like it because they can't micromanage people.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1733 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:49 am to
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It’s part of the reason why economists are skeptical that a 15% tariff is going to impact the economy much besides being an annoying new sales tax. Most businesses that buy part(s) subject to a 15% tariff will be able to get away with only negligible price increases to make up for it.



My company is holding off on expanding because of tariffs. They planned on their being some but this random 20% and 15% tariff one week on Asian parts is making them super cautious. It's totally unpredictable. Before someone says "just buy American, problem solved" we literally can't, there isn't a single manufacturer in the USA that make the parts we need from Korea.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
46136 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:05 am to
I’d say if you can score a 30 or higher on the ACT, then go to college.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7887 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:09 am to
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Plenty of high paying skilled blue collar jobs available


thanks.. Tell my wife this you fricking thick skulled moron
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7887 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:11 am to
Wife got laid off from a big corporate job in Dallas. They moved to Canda because Tarrifs and she made the most. She just got a job after being unemployed for 8 months.

Spare me the, she can work blue collar job. I wouldn't allow that for her.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
61908 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:20 am to
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Why would anyone hire a lazy arse federal worker? Lol.


You mean like a DEI hire? I agree, why would anyone hire them.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37126 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:23 am to
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I’d say if you can score a 30 or higher on the ACT, then go to college.


You think the only people that should go to college are the 90th percentile standardized test takers?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37126 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:24 am to
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Wife got laid off from a big corporate job in Dallas. They moved to Canda because Tarrifs


Sorry your wife got laid off but your reason is utter bullshite
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27594 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:38 am to
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if you can score a 30 or higher on the ACT, then go to college.


Good thing I was only 5 or so points shy of that!
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27857 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:46 am to
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H1B visas putting Americans out of work.


I know a lot of people in IT around North DFW, it's common knowledge that once one of these HB-1employees gets to a hiring position that's all they will hire.

So they come over and take our jobs, then refuse to hire any American workers.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60178 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:51 am to
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Skip college kids. It’s nothing more than a debt trap. Welders, Electricians, Plumbers and HVAC work is where it’s at.


And when everyone moves to that…they are royally screwed
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 10:17 am
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4812 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 10:09 am to
The bottom line is our broken health care system dominates. Manufacturing is dead. It’s basically nothing but subsidy with endless demand.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9796 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 10:10 am to
I was like welp, I made a 28 I guess I’m too fricking stupid.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34494 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 10:11 am to
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I know a lot of people in IT around North DFW, it's common knowledge that once one of these HB-1employees gets to a hiring position that's all they will hire.



Not just IT, that happens in any area of work.
Posted by BDPops85
Member since Mar 2020
238 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 10:21 am to
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I'm sure its got nothing to do with commercial real estate values.


THIS
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1733 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Our company laid off 100 IT ppl. Offshored the work to Hungary and India


Every company does this and reshores the IT team about a year later because Indians are rude with customers and make a lot of mistakes.

Then a new shareholder focused CEO comes in and does the same thing. Rinse and Repeat.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40228 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:36 pm to
We're just gonna pretend like these CEO's don't have financial interest in office space staying leased out.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7887 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:27 pm to
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Sorry your wife got laid off but your reason is utter bullshite


Im sorry what?? They literally moved to Canada you dumb trumper

She has a very high paying job now. I dont need an apology.
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