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re: Trump's Guidelines For Opening Up America

Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10223 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:32 pm to
I don't agree with a lot of what he does, but this seems pretty sensible.

There will be people on the other side who trash him now matter what happens.

This really seems like a good move.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:33 pm to
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There is a ton of room in these phases for state and local governments to just continue this shite indefinitely. That is frustrating.


It was always going to be up to the states and local governments. These are just guidelines they can choose to follow, or choose to ignore. I think they’re mostly reasonable, though they don’t really address ramping up testing and how we get there.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10223 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:36 pm to
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It was always going to be up to the states and local governments.


As it should be. I agree with getting these guidelines out there, but what's going to work in Little Rock, Arkansas will not work in NYC.

Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:36 pm to
They just showed a graph of New Orleans that makes it seem like it's a week or more into downward trend already.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
15253 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:38 pm to
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So to move to Phase 1 reopening, we have to have 14 days, then Phase 2, at least 14 days must pass since Phase 1 and we must meet the criteria, then to move to Phase 3, another clean 14 day measurement?



Actually, that is how it should be if we want to avoid it all going to hell.

Is it under control? Yes. Good. Open up a little.

Is it still under control? Yes. Good. Open up more.

Is it still under control. No. Not good. Get it back under control and we'll try it again.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:40 pm to
right i get that, but no state has the testing or tracing requirements
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46437 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:43 pm to
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As it should be. I agree with getting these guidelines out there, but what's going to work in Little Rock, Arkansas will not work in NYC.

That’s why it can be implemented state wide or by county, city, etc.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79880 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 5:50 pm to
New Orleans will fight the stigma of being a hot spot for the whole recovery.

Just because it was bad in NOLA doesn't mean it is still bad.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28974 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:09 pm to
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Yes, so the earliest anyone could fully return to normal would be after 42 days.


Is that right though? Trump said some states could go back 14 days from today and begin this tomorrow.

Anybody have a link that shows how many days Louisiana has been in a downward trend?
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:12 pm to
Are seeds and car seats in there? Those are really important to the OT.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:13 pm to
This press conference has been so great in terms of news/developments...economy is coming back!

Really great day
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46437 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:14 pm to
The press were much more professional, as well.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79880 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:17 pm to
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The press were much more professional, as well.


Gotta get their talking points together for the criticism.

Short notice to develop a plan.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109010 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:19 pm to
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It was always going to be up to the states and local governments. These are just guidelines they can choose to follow, or choose to ignore. I think they’re mostly reasonable, though they don’t really address ramping up testing and how we get there.


I think a lot of pretty reasonable Governors have suggested something similar (phasing and tracking).

It was always going to make sense to gradually open up and keep an eye for spikes. In 1918 they went for a full on unrestricted re-opening after the first wave and ended up with two more waves with significantly more deaths.

This is probably the most reasonable thing I've seen come out of the federal government in this whole thing.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15342 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 6:42 pm to
Lots of things are wholly different 102 years later.
Posted by landmanner
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
3512 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:07 pm to
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The only point I disagree with is the “elective surgery is part of phase two”.



Maybe phase one is coming fast. A doctor friend told me today that his South Louisiana hospital was told that elective surgeries will start May 1.

Cannot believe JBE would move that fast.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:08 pm to
Well I for one am glad to see that Phase One can be condensed neatly into 3 PowerPoint slides. And here I was thinking this would be complicated. Silly me!
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38564 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:17 pm to
So are barber shops open in phase 1?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:24 pm to
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Bars should remain closed


frick this shite
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:29 pm to
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There is a ton of room in these phases for state and local governments to just continue this shite indefinitely. That is frustrating.


you've become quite the statist
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