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re: Trump's Guidelines For Opening Up America

Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Eat Your Crow
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:32 pm to
Restaurants can open in phase 1 but bars not until phase 2

What % of sales have to be food to be considered a restaurant vs. a bar?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:36 pm to
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This is my concern, we're going to need way more testing done first. Once we get that this will be a solid plan



This is the Trump administration's big push right now. They made a tremendous change yesterday, changing the Medicare reimbursement for most COVID-19 tests from $51 to $100.

The original plan of paying $51 per test was "reasonable," based strictly on the normal criteria. But $51 per test isn't enough for labs to make money when they have to pay overtime. And $51 per test isn't nearly enough to induce labs to buy new machines to run more tests.

So, raising the reimbursement is going to do a lot in a few weeks, as my understanding is that Abbott and Roche both have a number of their high-throughput machines available for sale.

Senate Democrats proposed a $30 billion plan to raise testing. Personally, I think that President Trump will propose similar measures and then pretend that they were his idea all along.

So, I think that we're going to be just fine on tests, for now. The shutdown and warmer weather have helped us nearly wipe out colds, the flu, and strep, so we basically won't have people with those conditions for a while who are worried that they have COVID-19 and need tests.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:39 pm to
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What % of sales have to be food to be considered a restaurant vs. a bar?



What some other countries are doing is declining to make a distinction between bars and restaurants, but saying that people have to sit with appropriate social distancing. That would eliminate a lot of bars where basically no one sits.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10979 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:52 pm to
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Schools need to open before businesses can open.

In the summer time, schools are out and business “somehow” remain open.

It’s fricking amazing!!
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
2421 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:11 pm to
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quote:
they should have be able to do phase 1 immediately.

Right?


yea, id like to know when you're "allowed" to begin phase 1


These are guidelines not mandates.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112599 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:15 pm to
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In the summer time, schools are out and business “somehow” remain open.

It’s fricking amazing!!
Wow.

It’s because summer camps and the like start up......Those are also banned in phase 1

It’s fricking amazing!!!!

ETA: serious question, what did you think working parents did when their kids were out for summer?
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:30 pm to
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Looks good. Lots of common sense.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:30 pm to
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Wow.

It’s because summer camps and the like start up......Those are also banned in phase 1

It’s fricking amazing!!!!


Phase 2 can be in many if not most places in America right around the time school would let out.


Summer camps aren’t really in danger for most locales
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:30 pm to
Wonder if the kids will go back in the fall with no vaccine.

No way one would think.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112599 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Phase 2 can be in many if not most places in America right around the time school would let out.


Summer camps aren’t really in danger for most locales

Im just making the point being summer doesn’t magically mean young kids don’t have to be put somewhere for parents to go to work

For the entire workforce to be able to return, kids will first have to be able to attend schools/camps.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1109 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:34 pm to
You can’t put over 25% of the states population in close contact with one another. Especially when a big portion don’t understand social distancing and general hygiene. The spike would be huge.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41919 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:35 pm to
Which, for the most part, will be open under these guidelines by summertime.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112599 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:35 pm to
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Wonder if the kids will go back in the fall with no vaccine.

No way one would think.

According to the presidential guidelines, schools/kids camps could be ready to go in 14 days
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:36 pm to
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According to the presidential guidelines, schools/kids camps could be ready to go in 14 days
what's your opinion on this?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112599 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:36 pm to
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You can’t put over 25% of the states population in close contact with one another. Especially when a big portion don’t understand social distancing and general hygiene. The spike would be huge.

I mean that’s going to be happening in multiple states in about 14 days....
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112599 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:37 pm to
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what's your opinion on this?

People/leaders are going to have to prove to me they aren’t afraid

I’m torn on what I personally think will happen
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112599 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:38 pm to
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Which, for the most part, will be open under these guidelines by summertime.

Agreed according to guidelines

My only point was the poster was right. The full workforce can’t return until the kids are taken care of. The other poster inferring since it was summer that isn’t an issue was misguided
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 8:41 pm
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1109 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:42 pm to
I have to think that just about everyone over the age of 18 understands basic hygiene and social distancing. Kids are going to want to play with each other and there is no room for social distancing at a school. I would bet the flu, strep etc spreads through a school faster than any other place.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 8:43 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125091 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:42 pm to
Nope. Just pointing out your party will use the loose guidelines to keep up the shutdown nonsense.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112599 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:43 pm to
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have to think that just about everyone over the age of 18 understands basic hygiene and social distancing. Kids are going to want to play with each other and there is no room for social distancing at a school. I would bet the flu, strep etc spreads through a school faster than any other place.
Im just saying kids will be going back to camps and schools in some states in a mere 14 days or so

We will see what happens
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