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re: Trial set to begin in murder of Austin Metcalf by Karmelo Anthony; Verdict is GUILTY

Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:25 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:25 am to
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No, because intent for the purposes of murder is intent to kill or inflict great bodily harm. Things like stabbing and shooting automatically cover the second part.
most shooting suspects in New Orleans are always charged with ‘assault with a deadly weapon’
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:26 am to
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most shooting suspects in New Orleans are always charged with ‘assault with a deadly weapon’

That depends on whether there’s a body that catches one of the bullets being flung
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:29 am to
their aim isn’t great
Posted by Doctor B
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:42 am to
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If you were trying to kill someone, you wouldn’t stab them just one time

IDK, brah
If somebody tried to stab me in the head, neck or chest with a 3-4 inch knife, my reaction is gonna be: "This mf-er is trying to kill me."
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:06 am to
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That depends on whether there’s a body that catches one of the bullets being flung
not really. You shoot someone in New Orleans, more than likely it will be some type of aggravated assault charge
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:08 am to
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You would have needed the guy to stab him multiple times to get that and show intent to kill him.
hey guys, found someone even more dumb than KA’s defense attorneys
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:08 am to
It would be shocking how stupid he is if it wasn't for what I've witnessed on twitter during this trial
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:16 am to
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It’d be pretty easy for the defense to argue there was no intent that the guy doing the stabbing intended the person to die by only stabbing one time. This is backed up by the questioning with police

Did you read the description of the stab wound? It was a large gaping wound not just some little prick. Even mention of bone fragments.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:16 am to
It was only one though man
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:18 am to
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you were trying to kill someone, you wouldn’t stab them just one time. Especially with a small knife. It’s not like this guy was carrying a dagger. How many people convicted of 1st degree murder have ever stabbed a person just once?


I had to look twice to make sure this wasn't el gaucho
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:24 am to
Since the jury is being sequestered during deliberations... I wonder if that will influence them to come to a quicker verdict than if they weren't
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:27 am to
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To me this is clearly a case of excessive self defense.


Under Texas law there is no claim to self defense when provocation is involved as the pretext for attacking another person.

In plain English, you can’t unfold and arm yourself with a bladed weapon under concealment of a backpack and then repeatedly dare the victim to touch you and find out. Furthermore, Texas law prohibits the use of deadly force in verbal alterations, which is what this was up until the moment Austin was stabbed in the chest. KA legally became the aggressor the moment he unfolded the knife, thus introducing a weapon into a verbal dispute.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 9:33 am
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:32 am to
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JoeyP239


Geez brother, don't exhaust yourself with those mental gymnastics you're doing.

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If you were trying to kill someone, you wouldn’t stab them just one time. Especially with a small knife. It’s not like this guy was carrying a dagger. How many people convicted of 1st degree murder have ever stabbed a person just once?


According to this logic, as long as I only shoot a guy once and the caliber is small enough, I can't be charged with murder.


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Also compare it to the Idaho murders. Kohlburger stabbed those girls 67, 38,28,17 times. Clearly trying to murder them.



No, we won't because that's a dumb argument. You're basically saying a drunk driver that hit a family and killed them driving 50 mph is not as bad as the drunk driver that kills a family driving 80 mph.


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It’d be pretty easy for the defense to argue there was no intent that the guy doing the stabbing intended the person to die by only stabbing one time. This is backed up by the questioning with police.


That's actually a ridiculously weak argument.

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To me this is clearly a case of excessive self defense. Nobody is getting a 1st degree murder charge conviction out of it. I think the only reason the SA even charged 1st degree was to accept a plea bargain lower.


geez.


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If someone pushes you, and in response you stab them in the stomach one time. One, you are defending yourself. Two, it’d be hard to prove intent of murder. Intent of harmful bodily injury - yes. Bodily injury that results in loss of life, doubtful.



Force has the be equal to the perceived threat. You can go fly a kite if you're going to argue that being pushed out of a tent you didn't belong under at a school function with dozens of people around rose to the level of perceived threat to life thus to justify a stabbing in response.


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I’d expect the jury to find him guilty of manslaughter and he gets 10 years in prison given his age and lack of priors. There is no way he walks free.



Your arguments are painful to read.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:43 am to
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You shoot someone in New Orleans, more than likely it will be some type of aggravated assault charge

Sounds like a DA issue then.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:51 am to
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I'm not a lawyer by any stretch, but wouldn't Anthony's best shot here be arguing intent to kill?

admit his intent was to hurt the guy, but not for the guy to die?


His best shot is to angle for manslaughter and say it was a heated argument and he reacted before he could coolly consider the situation.

Buuuutttt the facts sure don't show that.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67039 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:52 am to
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someone pushes you, and in response you stab them in the stomach one time. One, you are defending yourself. Two, it’d be hard to prove intent of murder. Intent of harmful bodily injury - yes. Bodily injury that results in loss of life, doubtful.


You’re defending yourself if you push them back or swing at them.

Not fricking stab them you dolt
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:58 am to
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Closing arguments are 35 minutes each.
Prosecutor Bill Wirskye waived right to open so lead defense attorney Mike Howard is starting

“Austin Metcalf had no legal right to use force to eject Karmelo Anthony from that tent”

“He had no legal right to put his hands on Karmelo…Karmelo is in a public place”

“We ask you this incredibly tough task which is to follow the law”

“The government wants to make this case about Melo could have just left”

“You heard that a track event is a social event, it was completely common for kids to be milling about and go by and say hi, stop into the tent”

“We know that it was raining, i don’t know why we had to have this argument about whether it was raining”

“We know how Texas weather is, so it’s easy to think, boy i better get out of this rain”

He says a witness testified “we had no problem with him under the tent while it was raining”

“You have to put yourself in his (Karmelo’s) shoes, so you start under that tent, you want to get out of the rain”

“Sure enough one of the people at Memorial says, yea, come on over”

“Then all of the sudden Hunter Metcalf, or Austin say who are you? You need to leave?”

“These guys are much bigger than you, do you turn your back and walk away and take a chance that these teenage boys with their raging hormones”

“Austin and Hunter had the right to tell Melo to leave but they did have the right to use deadly force to make him leave”

“Melo had an absolute right to defend himself against that”

“How do you know in a split second of chaos when it’s too late”

“Because if you wait too late to defend yourself self defense is meaningless”



There's been absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the Metcalfs at any point even attempted to use deadly force
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:59 am to
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You would have needed the guy to stab him multiple times to get that and show intent to kill him.


I'd say this has to be a joke but I've read your posts on other boards as well, so this tracks. This is one of the dumbest takes I've ever heard on tigerdroppings
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 10:05 am
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3960 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:02 am to
if anthony thought they were all p*****ssies, then he clearly wasn't afraid. destroys most of the defense's closing arguments.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23238 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:02 am to
The defense attorney is giving it his best shot. He's going to be found guilty but the defense is doing what they can
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