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re: Trader Joe's too snazzy for one Portland neighborhood
Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Many "chains" sell both locally sourced
I'd like to take special issue with this.
What?
And chain restaurants in particular, you can go ahead and chalk that up to just about ZERO, and you'll be completely safe.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 11:28 pm
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:29 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Found some video. Chains also usually pay better benefits and have better training than locals do. Not to mention they have better hours and inventory in most cases. I want to go buy some tools on Sunday, nearest Ace store is closed. So I go to Lowes or Home Depot. Then half the time I go to Ace, they don't have what I need anyway.
Wait a second. These people are talking about creating a pathway back to the area for blacks and only blacks should live in the area.
Is'nt that apartheid?
Found some video. Chains also usually pay better benefits and have better training than locals do. Not to mention they have better hours and inventory in most cases. I want to go buy some tools on Sunday, nearest Ace store is closed. So I go to Lowes or Home Depot. Then half the time I go to Ace, they don't have what I need anyway.
Wait a second. These people are talking about creating a pathway back to the area for blacks and only blacks should live in the area.
Is'nt that apartheid?
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:40 pm to The Sad Banana
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Reading between the lines...they want Popeyes.
there are two in the area. They are both on MLK blvd.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:52 pm to LSUintheNW
What about hair weaving establishments?
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:57 pm to prplhze2000
I don't spend that much time in the inner parts of that area, so I don't know. I only know the area a bit because of my previous job.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:04 pm to LSUintheNW
That was a joke.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:15 pm to prplhze2000
I know...but I'm a long talker at times. 
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:51 pm to LSUintheNW
Mike da Tiger would rather force poor people to higher prices of their limited income at small boutiques and cafes to support his aesthetic worldview.
Nevermind that the epitome of capitalistic evil, Walmart, has granted access to goods and products that were previously unattainable to poorer residents. But barring them from theses products is a small sacrifice for his worldview.
Nevermind that the epitome of capitalistic evil, Walmart, has granted access to goods and products that were previously unattainable to poorer residents. But barring them from theses products is a small sacrifice for his worldview.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:55 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Walmart, has granted access to goods and products that were previously unattainable to poorer residents
Like what? I agree that Walmart has brought additional access to many rural areas of the country, but that's not where most people live.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:58 pm to Easy
There's Walmarks in every urban or populated areas I've been in. Who said WM only opened stores in rural areas?
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:20 pm to Palmetto08
F'N Portland, always trying to keep the non-oppressed man down.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:26 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Who said WM only opened stores in rural areas?
I didn't mean to imply that. Just saying that Walmart did increase access to goods in rural areas. But what goods did Walmart make available in suburban and urban areas that weren't available prior?
Posted on 2/8/14 at 3:52 pm to Easy
some of it is the hours.
Want to buy things for your car? They are open.
Need to buy rubber maid items or cooking ware? Open.
Bedsheets etc. Open.
They make things very convenient with their hours and selection.
Want to buy things for your car? They are open.
Need to buy rubber maid items or cooking ware? Open.
Bedsheets etc. Open.
They make things very convenient with their hours and selection.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 5:31 pm to prplhze2000
Just wanted to add a little perspective. Son of a former small business owner. Dad owned his business for 17 years and sold out about 2 years ago to a young local guy.
In today's climate you can't deny chains' place. Local shops are GREAT but they can't make it without a chain. Their cost of business is simply too high...making their services and goods high. Local is premium and especially in cases like this (at least how the "community" is portraying it) where there isn't much disposable income. Chains grow the area, local eventually takes the overflow.
In today's climate you can't deny chains' place. Local shops are GREAT but they can't make it without a chain. Their cost of business is simply too high...making their services and goods high. Local is premium and especially in cases like this (at least how the "community" is portraying it) where there isn't much disposable income. Chains grow the area, local eventually takes the overflow.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 5:49 pm to Easy
I didn't mean to imply that. Just saying that Walmart did increase access to goods in rural areas. But what goods did Walmart make available in suburban and urban areas that weren't available prior?
A whole helluva lot to poorer urban residents who couldn't afford those same goods or products at less efficient mom and pop shops.
A whole helluva lot to poorer urban residents who couldn't afford those same goods or products at less efficient mom and pop shops.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:30 pm to The Sad Banana
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How is a grocery store going to drive up rental costs?
One store by itself probably wouldn't, but a store like Trader Joe's attracts wealthier shoppers than your average store (despite the fact that TJ's is mostly just mediocre frozen food). So if wealthier shoppers start traveling there for the Trader Joe's, that will attract other businesses that cater to that crowd which will start to push out the local businesses that are there now and eventually lead to higher rent and so on.
It's called gentrification.
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