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re: Trader Joe's too snazzy for one Portland neighborhood
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:10 pm to The Sad Banana
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:10 pm to The Sad Banana
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How is a grocery store going to drive up rental costs?
Bring private sector money into the neighborhood. That appears to be unacceptable.
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:11 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Good job on "foodstuffs". I guess the better question is "What the hell is Trader Joe's thinking?"
A neighborhood where one can buy trendy foodstuffs may become more desirable than one where you cannot?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:11 pm to Palmetto08
I honestly thought this would be a link to a hoax news site. Wow, just wow.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:12 pm to 805tiger
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Do you know the condition of the neighborhood right now?
One with relatively low rents?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:12 pm to 805tiger
Oh SNAP
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:12 pm to The Sad Banana
It's called gentrification and is happening all over the U.S. Land/buildings become cheap in the ghetto because, well you know why, so some enterprising developer buys up a bunch of cheap property and makes it nice. He asks fair market value for the nice redeveloped properties and (Oh! The horror!) decent people move into the properties. Then along comes the Race Baiters and scream RACISM! those aren't "my people" living in those new properties. It is the worst form of double standard reverse racism IMO.
From the internet:
Gentrification is a shift in an urban community toward wealthier residents and/or businesses and increasing property values, sometimes to the detriment of the poorer residents of the community. Gentrification is typically the result of investment in a community by local government, community activists, or business groups, and can often spur economic development, attract business, lower crime rates, and have other benefits to a community. Despite these potential benefits, urban gentrification results in population migration, with poorer residents displaced by wealthier newcomers.
From the internet:
Gentrification is a shift in an urban community toward wealthier residents and/or businesses and increasing property values, sometimes to the detriment of the poorer residents of the community. Gentrification is typically the result of investment in a community by local government, community activists, or business groups, and can often spur economic development, attract business, lower crime rates, and have other benefits to a community. Despite these potential benefits, urban gentrification results in population migration, with poorer residents displaced by wealthier newcomers.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:12 pm to Palmetto08
Put it in NOLA instead
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:13 pm to Jefferson Davis
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Put it in NOLA instead
No, they just opened a fancy new Whole Foods in our ghetto.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:15 pm to jbgleason
quote:In other words, the ghetto wants ghetto.
It's called gentrification and is happening all over the U.S. Land/buildings become cheap in the ghetto because, well you know why, so some enterprising developer buys up a bunch of cheap property and makes it nice. He asks fair market value for the nice redeveloped properties and (Oh! The horror!) decent people move into the properties. Then along comes the Race Baiters and scream RACISM! those aren't "my people" living in those new properties. It is the worst form of double standard reverse racism IMO.
From the internet:
Gentrification is a shift in an urban community toward wealthier residents and/or businesses and increasing property values, sometimes to the detriment of the poorer residents of the community. Gentrification is typically the result of investment in a community by local government, community activists, or business groups, and can often spur economic development, attract business, lower crime rates, and have other benefits to a community. Despite these potential benefits, urban gentrification results in population migration, with poorer residents displaced by wealthier newcomers.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:15 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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No, they just opened a fancy new Whole Foods in our ghetto.
I'm surprised there hasn't been similar outrage
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:15 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Once the heart of Portland’s African-African community, Northeast Portland is now actually only one-fourth black,
I wouldn't call that a black neighborhood....
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:16 pm to 805tiger
Right?!?!Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:17 pm to 805tiger
Trader joes does NOT open stores in the ghetto, so I'd guess that it's a neighborhood that is already mostly gentrified (ie non-black).
But it's weird to me how they had this massive explosion of stores yet refuse to open in areas around where I live. I think that it's all about marketing and public perception. If they open in Hollywood or silver lake they are "trendy". If they open in south LA or inglewood they are seen for what they really are - a discount grocery.
But it's weird to me how they had this massive explosion of stores yet refuse to open in areas around where I live. I think that it's all about marketing and public perception. If they open in Hollywood or silver lake they are "trendy". If they open in south LA or inglewood they are seen for what they really are - a discount grocery.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:18 pm to 805tiger
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Once the heart of Portland’s African-African community, Northeast Portland is now actually only one-fourth black,
I wouldn't call that a black neighborhood....
Except in Portland, apparently. Maybe Boise or Provo, as well.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:19 pm to chillygentilly
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No, they just opened a fancy new Whole Foods in our ghetto.
quote:
I'm surprised there hasn't been similar outrage
Well truthfully, the letter L on the big store signage blinks and looks like the letter R.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:19 pm to Geauxld Finger
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I'd be willing to bet, it's because they do not accept government assistance cards as well.
I'm leaning toward this.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:19 pm to Palmetto08
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The Portland African American Leadership Forum objected to the proposed development partly because it feared that the new retail complex would eventually push up rental prices in the area and drive out the local black community.
Makes sense. Avoid improvements to the local economy at all costs, because someone would have to actually go to work then.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:22 pm to Bear Is Dead
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“All of my neighbors were excited to have Trader Joe’s come here and replace a lot that has always been empty,” said Nghi Tran. “It’s good quality for poor men.” (The property has been vacant for 20 years.) Tran, who has lived in the neighborhood for 15 years, blasted the PAALF, noting, “They don’t come to the neighborhood clean-ups. They don’t [even] live here anymore.”
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:23 pm to jbgleason
Gentrification is racism. It's just a fact that black people regardless of income cannot gentrify a neighborhood. It's not a sign of gentrification when we move in.
Asians and Hispanics aren't too much different. It's usually only considered gentrification when whites move.
Asians and Hispanics aren't too much different. It's usually only considered gentrification when whites move.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:23 pm to The Sad Banana
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How is a grocery store going to drive up rental costs?
Trader Joe's moves in, other businesses follow if it's a success, area gets more investment, and property values increase.
See gentrification
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