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re: TOPS meant to keep college educated people in LA, instead it is funding TX's workforce

Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38011 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:40 pm to
This is why I teach math
Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
918 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:40 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 8:14 am
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:40 pm to
The day after I graduated LSU I left the state of Louisiana for good. Thank you taxpayers!
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33812 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:43 pm to
I 100 percent agree that TOPS should be canceled in May of 2023.
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:53 pm to
There's plenty of ways skilled talent leaves Louisiana. TOP's was not an option for me, but I left as well. It's the lack of good jobs. You want a smart, rich population? You need education AND good jobs. Louisiana has education, but a dog-shite job market.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35270 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:54 pm to
Dead last in everything in our voters invited JBE back.

Smart people make smart decisions. This isn’t rocket science.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:56 pm to
Yep, that was me.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39248 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Dead last in everything in our voters invited JBE back.


All the ones that might have voted him out moved to Texas.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:02 pm to
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Or find ways to make this damn state more attractive to stay. The only positive thing this state can boast about is adding half a million people to Medicaid expansion.


Here's an idea - why don't we lower taxes with the savings we'll have from forcing graduates to pay back TOPS if they leave?
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1756 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:02 pm to
If you take momma and daddy’s money to create a scholarship program that gives degrees but maintain a state with high taxes and low job opportunities how could you not expect the now valuable graduates with options to go to a state with a lot of opportunity and lower taxes??
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58825 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:04 pm to
There’s no other place I’d live in this state

ETA - I could definitely see myself moving back though
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:04 pm to
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Why should someone have to remain in the state they were educated in?



It's worth considering if that state paid for them to attend.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24383 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:05 pm to
Louisiana is beyond redemption.

I mean..seriously. frick this shite hole.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9688 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Like TOPS?


Nice try, but no. Not like TOPS.

How so many of you are against higher education for all blows my mind. I understand there are flaws within academia but it sure as frick beats working at a contractors supply house pulling orders for 3 decades.

And don't start with the trade bullshite. Trades are fantastic when there is work and when the apprenticeship programs are thriving. But when there is no work, they aren't admitting. And when there IS work, they are super selective because everyone wants in.

Getting people into environments where they can learn, even if they aren't exactly sure of their goals, is a GOOD thing for an economy long-term.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 1:09 pm
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Make TOPS recipients stay in state for minimum of four years after graduation or they have to pay it back


How will making TOPS recipients live with their parents for 4 years before moving out of state to find a job in their field gonna change anything?
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:11 pm to
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It's worth considering if that state paid for them to attend.


So kind of like an indentured servant system.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:12 pm to
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How will making TOPS recipients live with their parents for 4 years before moving out of state to find a job in their field gonna change anything?
How does paying for others to go college when they immediately leave afterwards benefit the state?

At the very least, LA would recoup some of the money they spent sending someone to Texas.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6403 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:15 pm to
But yet every article or opinion The Advocate publishes between 1/1/19 and 11/15/19 championed JBE and his policies. Most of which ignored these type of facts and their underlying cause—-the best jobs are leaving the state and as a result the best people are following them out of the state. This article is a joke and should have been published in the first week of November. The Advocate under Georges has become a joke and refuses to question anything within the SWB or JBE administrations. Yet it will constantly criticize average city ends for making decisions that they believe will provide them with a safer and more financially secure life ( moving out of state, creating SG, etc).
Posted by MissWalkOn
Member since Nov 2019
217 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:16 pm to
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Make TOPS recipients stay in state for minimum of four years after graduation or they have to pay it back.


Nice idea but will never happen.

Probably unconstitutional anyway
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9954 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 1:17 pm to
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Exactly. If we would just end sanctuary cities and work on our car insurance the economy would be booming. We had our chance....


Rispone ran a horrible campaign but that certainly does not give JBE a pass.
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