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TOPS meant to keep college educated people in LA, instead it is funding TX's workforce

Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:40 am
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:40 am
Advocate article

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The data shows the younger adults are behind the change. Net migration to Texas for those ages 24 and under with a degree in 2017 was at -2,140, the worst since 2004. For ages 25-34, that year it was -1,343 after being at -1,275 in 2016.

It means the Lone Star State is taking Louisiana’s biggest investments — its best and brightest people educated at LSU and other taxpayer-supported universities.


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Other states are also taking Louisiana residents. Among the nine states in the southeastern United States, Louisiana’s -59.6 net migration per 10,000 residents ranked ahead of only Mississippi.

“You are losing some of your talented people, and talented people are really what drive regions to grow faster,” said Wagner, who compiled the data for The Advocate. “The way I like to think of it is people are the best resource we have. It’s not oil. It’s not natural resources. It’s people. When you take away the No. 1 resource you have, that’s a disadvantage.”


This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 11:44 am
Posted by SonOfMike
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5886 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:41 am to
I moved with 4 other college graduates from Louisiana to Austin in 2010. All had TOPs. Best decision I ever made. No jobs in LA
Posted by O
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
6459 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:41 am to
Do you blame them? I have a ton of friends that have moved to Houston and Dallas and love both cities.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33578 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:42 am to
Yea their needs to be some overhauls to TOPS. I don’t know what the answer is but it’s not working as intended right now.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23452 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:43 am to
My youngest son moved from Louisiana to San Antonio and loves San Antonio. He'll never come back here.

Young people with marketable skills are leaving in droves.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70339 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:43 am to
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I don’t know what the answer is but it’s not working as intended right now.


It's not the fault of the scholarship program that the business climate in Louisiana is shite.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54099 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:44 am to
why would they stay?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39207 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:44 am to
Make TOPS recipients stay in state for minimum of four years after graduation or they have to pay it back.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:44 am to
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I don’t know what the answer is


A governor that knows how to actually grow the economy rather than just tax more.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:45 am to
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Yea their needs to be some overhauls to TOPS. I don’t know what the answer is but it’s not working as intended right now.


If I recall correctly, New York's system is that if NY funds your education, you have to work in the state for 4 years. If you choose not to, you have to pay it back. Similar to the demands of the military paying your education through ROTC or service academy.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 11:45 am
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2109 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:45 am to
If you graduated while utilizing tops and then move out of state, you should have to pay it back. It's a horrible investment for the LA.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8315 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:45 am to
frick TOPS and frick funding these turncoats that leave the state.

This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 11:49 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41623 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:46 am to
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TOPS meant to keep college educated people in LA, instead it is funding TX's workforce

You are 90% correct but this state's legislature and voters will never see it that way because it's a handout that transcends race. In other words, nobody wants to put their hand back into their own pocket so status-quo it is!
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:46 am to
But good food, good people
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57349 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:46 am to
You know who wasn't on TOPS? Michael Jackson.

And look how he turned out.

Stay on TOPS
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:46 am to
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If you graduated while utilizing tops and then move out of state, you should have to pay it back. It's a horrible investment for the LA.


Agreed. If this keeps up, either implement this or cancel the program, which is socialist anyway. Its not fulfilling its intended purpose. If they wanna move to Texas, make them pay for it.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164143 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:46 am to
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If I recall correctly, New York's system is that if NY funds your education, you have to work in the state for 4 years. If you choose not to, you have to pay it back. Similar to the demands of the military paying your education through ROTC or service academy.


Something like this needs to be done.

Or you could opt out of TOPS if you don't want to work in Louisiana out of college.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41623 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:47 am to
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A governor that knows how to actually grow the economy rather than just tax more.

Careful. You're gonna ruffle fake conservatives with that line.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:48 am to
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I have a ton of friends
subtle brag
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12715 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:48 am to
Why does tops exist? I never understood that. My brother-in-law had tops and failed out of LSU after a year. He's not the most book smart person i know. Seems like it's a financial burden on the state.
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