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Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:52 am
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:55 am to WKUHilltopper
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Gateway Baptist Church of Loveland
Sorry baw, this forum only cares about Catholic rapes. Pick a different topic.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:56 am to WKUHilltopper
Priest, pastors, reverends you name it all a little odd.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:59 am to WKUHilltopper
I personally have never been involved in any kind of matter involving being a witness to the crime of sexual assault of a child.
What I have involved myself in is this: Let's write down and agree on what our Civic Duty is as a Citizen when a child reports sexual abuse to us. I contend that our Duty is to IMMEDIATELY call 911 and report the crime of sexual abuse of a minor. We have that duty regardless of whether fulfilling this Duty will cause us any personal inconvenience whatsoever.
What if people that I know won't like me after I do this? Tough. Do your Job. Do your Duty. Call 911.
If any adult admits to you that he sexually abused a minor, you have the same duty - IMMEDIATELY call 911 to report the crime of sexual abuse of a minor. Do your Job as a Citizen. Do your Duty. Protect the children, even if it inconveniences you.
We make the 911 call, then Law Enforcement takes over the investigation and reports criminal wrong doing to the local District Attorney who may prosecute. The Government Authorities are immediately involved and are going to do THEIR duty to protect kids. Then we Citizens cooperate with the police and the DA, as requested by them.
That's my 2 cents.
Now, your particular fact scenario seems to focus more on Church Discipline and adverse actions against clergy who have allegedly not followed written orders on when and how to respond to allegations of a child sex abuse nature. I'm not going to address that, because I'd like to keep focus on what we should do as Citizens who want to protect kids.
In closing, I would like to say that it appears that all of our churches here in the USA are struggling with issues of how to deal with this kind of issue. I think perhaps the solution is to establish a liaison with Law Enforcement and develop some written "Orders" that all church members must follow.
What I have involved myself in is this: Let's write down and agree on what our Civic Duty is as a Citizen when a child reports sexual abuse to us. I contend that our Duty is to IMMEDIATELY call 911 and report the crime of sexual abuse of a minor. We have that duty regardless of whether fulfilling this Duty will cause us any personal inconvenience whatsoever.
What if people that I know won't like me after I do this? Tough. Do your Job. Do your Duty. Call 911.
If any adult admits to you that he sexually abused a minor, you have the same duty - IMMEDIATELY call 911 to report the crime of sexual abuse of a minor. Do your Job as a Citizen. Do your Duty. Protect the children, even if it inconveniences you.
We make the 911 call, then Law Enforcement takes over the investigation and reports criminal wrong doing to the local District Attorney who may prosecute. The Government Authorities are immediately involved and are going to do THEIR duty to protect kids. Then we Citizens cooperate with the police and the DA, as requested by them.
That's my 2 cents.
Now, your particular fact scenario seems to focus more on Church Discipline and adverse actions against clergy who have allegedly not followed written orders on when and how to respond to allegations of a child sex abuse nature. I'm not going to address that, because I'd like to keep focus on what we should do as Citizens who want to protect kids.
In closing, I would like to say that it appears that all of our churches here in the USA are struggling with issues of how to deal with this kind of issue. I think perhaps the solution is to establish a liaison with Law Enforcement and develop some written "Orders" that all church members must follow.
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:00 pm to WKUHilltopper
Edited because I can’t read.
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:02 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
So, there are a lot of layers to this, and I probably need the right kind of lawyer to bring a lawsuit.
But, does anyone know what kind of lawyer sues churches for hiring this type of person. There are also 3 other churches that I know of specific instances where they are trying to cover up and silence the whistleblower/accuser.
If you know of that kind of lawyer, or know one personally. These are very affluent influential churches in the southern baptist convention, and I’d love nothing more than the right lawyer to get involved and bring major light to this
But, does anyone know what kind of lawyer sues churches for hiring this type of person. There are also 3 other churches that I know of specific instances where they are trying to cover up and silence the whistleblower/accuser.
If you know of that kind of lawyer, or know one personally. These are very affluent influential churches in the southern baptist convention, and I’d love nothing more than the right lawyer to get involved and bring major light to this
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:04 pm to Purple Spoon
No, I’m saying he knew about it, and covered it up. Now he’s a pastor in Kentucky and people are covering for him because he never should have been hired in the first place
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:06 pm to Champagne
That has all been done, but the CPS worker called and said they are probably going to dismiss the case. It’s in the sheriff’s hands now, and they don’t seem to motivated.
So, I need someone to get this to the right influential person on social media that would be able to shed light on it
So, I need someone to get this to the right influential person on social media that would be able to shed light on it
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:13 pm to WKUHilltopper
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I’m not going to tell you which pastor it is
Well, that won’t help much in…
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Stopping Child Molestation
So here, I’ll do it. The names involved are:
Paul John Lavertu
James Rice
Thad Gunderson
Eric Mowen
What exactly are you scared of? A bunch of pedo bitches?
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But, does anyone know what kind of lawyer sues churches for hiring this type of person.
Stand up in service, and ask. “I found an article that was alarming and have a number of concerns and questions”. Seems a bit simple unless I’m misunderstanding the entire situation?
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:13 pm to WKUHilltopper
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But, does anyone know what kind of lawyer sues churches for hiring this type of person.
Local news might be interested.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:17 pm to WKUHilltopper
It's great that Law Enforcement got involved immediately. If they haven't any evidence to prosecute a criminal offense, the District Attorney's hands are tied because it is unethical to prosecute a case in which you know that there is no evidence that a crime occurred.
Turning to the question of how to get a church or other organization to properly respond to occurrences of misconduct of this nature - you are doing the right thing by bringing to the church authority's attention.
And I'm not qualified to provide good info on how a good citizen like you could proceed with legal actions in civil court against an organization involved in apparent "cover up" of some misconduct.
Turning to the question of how to get a church or other organization to properly respond to occurrences of misconduct of this nature - you are doing the right thing by bringing to the church authority's attention.
And I'm not qualified to provide good info on how a good citizen like you could proceed with legal actions in civil court against an organization involved in apparent "cover up" of some misconduct.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:17 pm to WKUHilltopper
It would be great if you told us where your corner of the world is
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:18 pm to WKUHilltopper
Send a "tip" to a local reporter. Only send it to one at first, and let them know that you'll bring it to another reporter if they don't express intent to create a story out of it.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:24 pm to LemmyLives
Thad Gunderson Owensboro ky
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:27 pm to WKUHilltopper
Heritage Baptist Church
Gary Boswell is the State Senator he buddies up to, and Cliff Boswell is Gary’s son, a family lawyer, and legal counsel for the church. They signed off on him and put him in the worst possible they could put him in given his past
Gary Boswell is the State Senator he buddies up to, and Cliff Boswell is Gary’s son, a family lawyer, and legal counsel for the church. They signed off on him and put him in the worst possible they could put him in given his past
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:29 pm to Champagne
Absolutely making the church in Kentucky aware is the right thing.
Church disciples and state actions are not mutually exclusive. Further, the church need not have the same qualitative level of proof that the state ought to have.
Meaning, if I see a pastor go into a closet with a youth for 15 minutes and come out zipping his pants, it might not be enough to throw him in jail, but it should be just about enough to throw him to the curb.
Church disciples and state actions are not mutually exclusive. Further, the church need not have the same qualitative level of proof that the state ought to have.
Meaning, if I see a pastor go into a closet with a youth for 15 minutes and come out zipping his pants, it might not be enough to throw him in jail, but it should be just about enough to throw him to the curb.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 1:08 pm to WKUHilltopper
Most I’ve noticed were there for outright molesting or more often scoping out 15-16 year old girls and waiting them out.
I guess if it’s legal…..?
Still creepy.
I guess if it’s legal…..?
Still creepy.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 1:12 pm to nbhnc
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nbhnc Absolutely making the church in Kentucky aware is the right thing. Church disciples and state actions are not mutually exclusive. Further, the church need not have the same qualitative level of proof that the state ought to have. Meaning, if I see a pastor go into a closet with a youth for 15 minutes and come out zipping his pants, it might not be enough to throw him in jail, but it should be just about enough to throw him to the curb.
I have. I’m being ignored. So, here I am. Will YOU ask the question on facebook? I need a lot of people to coordinate and decide to chime in. I’m not Doxxing anyone, this is all public info, and I want others made aware so they can expose it. I’m thankful for all who reply to this thread, but what these kids really need is for people to speak up
Posted on 5/10/26 at 1:13 pm to WKUHilltopper
I hope this works. I thought this thread was going to be focused on the large scale problem. I recently heard about a situation that has been reported to all legal authorities, is very concerning, and nothing has been done. Guy is still walking the streets. Stuff gets so backed because there are so many cases because it is so dang common. You have to imagine that those drowning in cases aren't even trying to lift new rocks.
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