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Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:43 am to WKUHilltopper
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:43 am to WKUHilltopper
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They have created an environment that all a pedo has to do is go to the church, be nice to everyone for a while, then he’ll get asked to volunteer, and once he’s been in the nursery system for a while, then he’s can start helping kids use the bathroom, and then the grooming and touching begins, and continues until someone says something, or the kid 20 years later comes out about it. And the fact that you and most normal Americans do see the problem is what they are banking on.
Have you contacted the Owensboro Times or any other local "independent" or "alternative" media outlets?
In Oklahoma, there are several guys on Facebook who eat this kind of stuff up and will investigate pretty much anything you report to them, especially if it involved public figures or church officials. I'm sure that there are similar people in Kentucky doing the same thing.
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:54 am to Mushroom1968
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From the article in OP, he told the perp to turn himself in, which the perp did. But he didn’t actually call the police himself, which he and staff should have done. From what I gather, he’s not molesting kids, but should have been more forceful in getting rid of a perp. I don’t know if that’s right though, OP is alll over the place, not bashing, but things aren’t very clear.
the pastor in question did not molest anyone from what i've been able to piece together from this extremely disjointed thread. this incident occurred in the mid 2000s, when this Gunderson guy would have been in his mid-twenties as a junior assistant pastor. should they have gone straight to the authorities with this information? one hundred percent yes. but to act like his actions are on par with him molesting children and that twenty years later, he is some sort of sinister deviant who should be run out of town and never allowed to participate in the ministry or even the community is ridiculous in my opinion. OP is acting like this pastor is an active child predator or something. "fleeing under a cloud of suspicion"? come on.
am i missing something?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:27 pm to TulsaSooner78
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Have you contacted the Owensboro Times or any other local "independent" or "alternative" media outlets? In Oklahoma, there are several guys on Facebook who eat this kind of stuff up and will investigate pretty much anything you report to them, especially if it involved public figures or church officials. I'm sure that there are similar people in Kentucky doing the same thing.
Would you mind sharing those folks pages with me, and thinking over this, you learn as you go…
But it does seem going to those kinds of people that have decided it’s their life mission to eradicate this kind of stuff
I’m happy to share whatever they need, I’ll talk on the phone, I’ll drive to Oklahoma and meet them if I have to.
Feel free to point me in the right direction
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:34 pm to Sam Quint
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this Gunderson guy would have been in his mid-twenties as a junior assistant pastor. should they have gone straight to the authorities with this information? one hundred percent yes. but to act like his actions are on par with him molesting children and that twenty years later, he is some sort of sinister deviant who should be run out of town and never allowed to participate in the ministry or even the community is ridiculous in my opinion.
Judging from what I read, it wasn't even clear that the original incident was reported as a sexual issue.
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Rice said one of the children's fathers came to another staff member last summer and told that employee that something had happened and that Lavertu needed counseling. The father did not go into detail beyond saying there was "some touching they didn't approve of," Rice said, adding that he personally had no idea it was sexual in nature.
Couple that with the fact that the victim's families seemed to understand that the dude wasn't mentally all there, and that they wanted it handled within the church, I can kind of understand why the pastors didn't report him to police.
I mean I think a mentally ill adult tickling a kid is inappropriate but I wouldn't necessarily call the police over it.
I think it's also a great point that Gunderson was just a junior member of the staff. He wasn't making the decisions here.
This guy absolutely may be guilty of something and be a terrible person but the information available to us now doesn't really suggest that.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:41 pm to WKUHilltopper
I do not think the person is a child molestor. I think he’s a jerk with bad judgment, a big ego, and I know for a fact that he has silenced and manipulated the system to keep others from reporting things at that church so as not to cause a stir. Things that rise to the level of abuse towards children and adults that have told him about things and he refuses to do anything. I don’t want him arrested, I want him fired and an apology from the church for hiring him in the first place. If you read the article, read the part at the bottom where the victims lawyer comments. I’ve talked to people from that lawyer’s office about their opinion of that case. And the fact that someone hired him back to the role of child pastor and counselor is ridiculous, and exposes the church and Christian school to a lawsuit. Not smart
I have reported this to a local politician, and I think they may investigate further. I don’t think this guy is sone kind of monster. I think he’s an idiot with an ego and a desire to tell people what to do. And Pastor or Youth Pastor is not a job he’s qualified for
I have reported this to a local politician, and I think they may investigate further. I don’t think this guy is sone kind of monster. I think he’s an idiot with an ego and a desire to tell people what to do. And Pastor or Youth Pastor is not a job he’s qualified for
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:47 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Couple that with the fact that the victim's families seemed to understand that the dude wasn't mentally all there, and that they wanted it handled within the church, I can kind of understand why the pastors didn't report him to police.
The actual molester was sentenced to 35 days followed by probation.
Why the light sentence? Probably a bunch of libs going soft on the perp. /s
The op wants to run the pastor out on a rail for not reporting twenty years ago.
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Rice, the head pastor, said the pastors were asked to counsel Lavertu a year earlier but did not know what he had done until 2007. When they found out, they told him to turn himself in to police, which he did.
That was the pastors side and why they were sentenced to misdemeanor charge of failure to report and expunged from their records one year later.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:53 pm to Dee_oh_Dee
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The actual molester was sentenced to 35 days followed by probation.
Why the light sentence? Probably a bunch of libs going soft on the perp. /s
It seems from the comments that he's mentally, basically a child himself, and couldn't understand what he was doing.
I looked to see if I could find any other incidents he was involved in since then but didn't see anything.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:12 pm to WKUHilltopper
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I do not think the person is a child molestor.
well then maybe rethink your thread title and the tone of about 95% of your posts on this thread.
to be honest, you seem to have some specific beef with this indivdual and you are using this issue as a vehicle by which you can air some other, untold grievance with him.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:16 pm to Sam Quint
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well then maybe rethink your thread title and the tone of about 95% of your posts on this thread. to be honest, you seem to have some specific beef with this indivdual and you are using this issue as a vehicle by which you can air some other, untold grievance with him.
I agree, for such a serious matter OP made this thread as murky as can be. I don’t know why people can’t start threads and make everything clear in the initial OP. And people calling for dude in a wood chipper and OP doesn’t say anything
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:20 pm to Mushroom1968
It sounds to me like the OP had a falling out with this church, perhaps exclusively about this, but I'd bet not.
It's possible this is some righteous cause being pursued awkwardly on a strange forum for it. But I think most people will reasonably conclude there is probably something else going on here too.
It's possible this is some righteous cause being pursued awkwardly on a strange forum for it. But I think most people will reasonably conclude there is probably something else going on here too.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:24 pm to WKUHilltopper
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I think he’s an idiot with an ego and a desire to tell people what to do. And Pastor or Youth Pastor is not a job he’s qualified for
But you've said you don't even go to that church anymore and apparently they're fine with him being pastor and that's really all that matters, as far as him being qualified or not.
The dude may absolutely be a douchebag but from everything you've presented here, and the way in which you've presented it, I can kind of understand why no one is listening to you or taking you seriously. No offense intended, just trying to speak from a neutral stance here.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:25 pm to WKUHilltopper
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I know for a fact that he has silenced and manipulated the system to keep others from reporting things at that church so as not to cause a stir. Things that rise to the level of abuse towards children and adults that have told him about things and he refuses to do anything. I don’t want him arrested, I want him fired and an apology from the church for hiring him in the first place.
none of this makes any sense.
you are demanding he be fired and that the church publicly apologize for hiring him due to the 2006 incident and all that
but you're also saying that he has been silencing people and manipulating systems and what have you in order to cover up abuse towards children. like recently i presume from this context? but even though you say he has been covering up child abuse recently, you dont want him arrested?
maybe if you would lay out specifically what he did along with dates in a clear, linear way, it would help. because i'm just not seeing it.
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I don’t think this guy is sone kind of monster. I think he’s an idiot with an ego and a desire to tell people what to do
this makes it sound even more like you just have some issue with him personally that is entirely unrelated
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:39 pm to WKUHilltopper
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:48 pm to WKUHilltopper
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I’m not the most tech savvy person, and I don’t have social media, but the people I’ve talked to say social media is the way to go. But I don’t have social media, and don’t want to. So, if this interests you, and you know how to shed light on this, please do.
You no are tech savvy enough to post here and participate in this social media.
If you seriously think this is a wolf in the hen house, it’s an odd line to draw to refuse to open an account
Alternatively, go get a billboard of his mug shot.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 3:22 pm to NoSaint
This has been a weird read-through.. I would describe my grandmother as "not very tech saavy", but I would bet money she could never figure out how to sign up and post on Tigerdroppings... and yet she's posting on Facebook all the time
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:18 am to jmcwhrter
A few hard questions and OP vanished
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