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Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:21 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:21 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Fox News just a bit ago said it was family choosing to withhold name.
Wtf that's horse shite
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:23 pm to SirWinston
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Fox News just a bit ago said it was family choosing to withhold name.
Time for someone to leak that. Family should not have this option. Flying a helicopter into a passenger plane and killing everyone aboard removes it.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:27 pm to TDsngumbo
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Not that I deny being a retard
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:27 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Fox News just a bit ago said it was family choosing to withhold name. Can't blame them for wanting some privacy as they cope w the initial shock and mourning.
They can withhold all they want, in today's social media world the name will be leaked
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:28 pm to SirWinston
You dont think a family should be afforded a window of time to cope after a tragedy? Especially with facts still coming in and folks assigning blame and potentially acting rashly while emotions are highest, seems prudent and compassionate to give them choice to pause.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:28 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
quote:While I can understand the sentiment, how is this allowed?
Fox News just a bit ago said it was family choosing to withhold name. Can't blame them for wanting some privacy as they cope w the initial shock and mourning.
60+ people who flew on a commercial airliner are dead, because a military helicopter went off course and into the landing vector of that flight. The ATC notified the helicopter of the incoming plane, the helicopter acknowledged the tower verbally. Those people would not be dead if the helicopter wasn't in the wrong place.
This was not a secret black op, it was a training mission.
If I crossed centerline and struck a school bus, I'm pretty sure my name is going to be published, regardless of my family's desires. Why is this different?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:37 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
No
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:38 pm to Scoob
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If I crossed centerline and struck a school bus, I'm pretty sure my name is going to be published, regardless of my family's desires. Why is this different?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:41 pm to Scoob
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Why is this different?
Cuz lady pilot is about to become the poster child for pushing back on DEI practices. Rightly or wrongly.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:41 pm to Scoob
I get impression many here (and elsewhere) are eager to blame one specific crew member. The helo's performance was a shared aircrew responsibility. There is no telling at this point what exactly was going on in the cockpit at that moment and who may have dropped their primary responsibility. (Likely, in these situations it was a chain of crew mistakes) Also, if Army rotary wing evals are anything like USAF the evaluator is responsible to step in to ensure safety of flight. I can't blame the family if they and a bit of temporary breathing space and are perhaps concerned because it seems many are fangs out for their deceased family member at the moment.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:45 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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I can't blame the family if they and a bit of temporary breathing space and are perhaps concerned because it seems many are fangs out for their deceased family member at the moment.
If the names were released together, the three in that copter... I doubt there'd be so many fangs out. It is the NOT releasing that is causing many to "bare fangs". It is special treatment, or has the look of it anyway. People are *tired* of it.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:48 pm to 4x4tiger
"At the request of the family, the name of the third Soldier will not be released at this time. That pilot is also DUSTWUN."
Army.mil Press release names 2 of 3 aircrew
Army.mil Press release names 2 of 3 aircrew
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:55 pm to SallysHuman
There are procedures defined by DOD instructions that spell out the casualty notification process and families are involved in the release process. I dont remember the references but I've dealt with it before. When an incident occurs names arent always released simultaneously. This isnt "special treatment." Your morbid curiosity doesnt out weigh rights of bereaved families. These procedures are in place.for the comfort and well being of military families and removing them would be imprudent and detrimental to morale.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:58 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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At the request of the family, the name of the third Soldier will not be released at this time. That pilot is also DUSTWUN."
Does this mean they haven't recovered the body?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:01 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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This isnt "special treatment."
There's text out there that states the name isn't being released AT THE REQUEST OF THE FAMILY.
Right or wrong, that is special treatment, imo. And... even if somehow it is NOT special treatment, it certainly LOOKS that way to many people. Special treatment afforded to ONE person.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:05 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
If anyone want to know the process reference is DoDI 1300.18 DoD Personnel Casualty Matters, Policies, and Procedures DODI
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:08 pm to KosmoCramer
Yes, DUSTWUN is a temporary personnel status until death is confirmed. Again, there is a process and the commander is required put service member in DUSTWUN during search/recovery. (Sadly I learned this first hand)
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:13 pm to SallysHuman
Relax, Karen.
Take another shot of Estrogen
Take another shot of Estrogen
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:15 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
What's DUSTWUN stand for?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:20 pm to East Coast Band
DUSTWUN=Duty Status Whereabouts Unknown
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