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Today is the 160th anniversary of one of the most famous battles of the American Civil War

Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:20 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:20 pm
The Battle of Shiloh.



In Hebrew, Shiloh is a word that means "Place of Peace." On April 6-7, 1862, the woods and fields around the small wooden church that bared the name were anything but peaceful. The Confederate Army of Mississippi, General Albert S. Johnston commanding, locked horns with Major General Ulysses S. Grant and his Union Army of the Tennessee - a force of roughly equal size. These 80,000 Union and Confederate soldiers fell in numbers that had never been seen before on the American continent.

Initially, Johnston's forces were in complete control of the battlefield as they achieved near complete surprise over the Union army - whose soldiers were mostly caught napping quite literally inside of their tents. The Union lines quickly were able to form a front of several miles and fought doggedly against their attackers, who slowly pushed the northerners back toward the Tennessee River.

On the Union right, a division of infantry under the command of a then-unknown William T. Sherman not only was able to mount a spirited resistance to the Confederate onslaught, but even managed to launch a counterattack that achieved fleeting success before the weight of Confederate numbers began to force them back. At the height of the fighting here, Sherman had several close encounters with death that included having multiple horses shot out from under him as well as his aide having his head blown off by a musket ball while engaged in conversation with him.

By late morning the Union defensive line was beginning to come apart and thousands of frightened Federals began streaming for the safety of the rear. Only the division of Benjamin Prentiss, holding firm in the center, kept the Confederate tide at bay. Taking position along a sunken road amidst the Tennessee timber, these Yankee soldiers fought off numerous Confederate attacks. The bullets flew so thick that this area would be forever remembered by the attacking Confederates as the Hornet's Nest.

Confederate General Johnston ordered massed artillery to the area around the Hornet's Nest to soften up the Union position before attacking again. In the largest artillery barrage in American history up to that time, some 50 Confederate cannon blasted the Hornet's Nest. Johnston decided he would lead the subsequent infantry assault on Prentiss and his Union defenders. While riding on his horse, a bullet clipped the artery behind his knee. Unable to feel the wound due to nerve damage in his right leg, the Confederate general bled out until he collapsed off of his horse from blood loss. He went into shock and subsequently died.

Albert Sidney Johnston was the highest ranking officer to die in the American Civil War.

P.G.T Beauregard took over command of the Confederate army and continued to order assaults against the Hornet's Nest. By this time, the Union divisions that had been stationed on the left and right of Prentiss had been forced back, allowing Confederates to cut off and surround the Union defenders. Prentiss and his division were forced to surrender but their defense had given the Union army valuable time.

Ulysses S. Grant had arrived at Pittsburg Landing on the banks of the Tennessee River to find his army in disarray. Tales of disaster confronted him everywhere he went. Rather than panicking, however, the general from Galena, Illinois quickly took control of the situation. Rallying soldiers, riding up and down the front lines trying to steady his men, Grant began to form a new defensive line backed by Union gunboats on the river. By the late afternoon hours of April 6, reinforcements from Major General Don Carlos Buell's Army of the Ohio began to arrive on the opposite side of the river and were being ferried across to join in Grant's now nearly impregnable defensive line.

Beauregard ordered limited assaults against the position but called them off due to the gathering darkness. The Confederates pulled back to the site of the Union encampments with the intention of attacking the next day to finish the job.

That night, a violent rain storm wreaked havoc on the battlefield. The sounds of thunder were punctuated by the sounds of the gun boats bombarding Confederate positions from the river. The noise couldn't quite drown out the sounds of the tens of thousands of Union and Confederate wounded moaning and crying for help in the darkness.

Grant had taken shelter from the rain in a wooden shack that had been converted into a Union hospital. The sight and sounds of the wounded, however, drove him near to sickness and thus he left to sleep in the mud with his men. Many of Grant's subordinates favored cutting their losses and retreating back across the river. None of them, however, were brave enough to broach the subject to Grant. So Sherman was enlisted by the Union high command to offer their commanding officer this advice.

Sherman found Grant sitting in the mud, his back against a tree, hat slouched low over his face, a cigar in his mouth. The sight no doubt gave Sherman renewed confidence in a man who was fast becoming his best friend. Walking over to Grant, Sherman looked down at the senior commander and said: "Well Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we."

Grant looked up. And with a puff on his cigar, which lit up his determined face in the darkness, Grant replied: "Yep. Lick 'em tomorrow though."

Thus was the first day of the bloody battle of Shiloh - April 6, 1862. 160 years ago today.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:33 pm to
Confederacy should have given up after this battle. Would have saved the country a lot of grief.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36551 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:39 pm to
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Confederacy should have given up after this battle. Would have saved the country a lot of grief.



Pride
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5533 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Confederacy should have given up after this battle. Would have saved the country a lot of grief.

Pride
Sherman tried to warn the insurrectionists before they started the war:

quote:

You people of the South don’t know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization!

You people speak so lightly of war; you don’t know what you’re talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it…

Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth-right at your doors.

You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with.

At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
3760 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Today is the 160th anniversary of one of the most famous battles of the American Civil War 


Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5533 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

Sherman found Grant sitting in the mud, his back against a tree, hat slouched low over his face, a cigar in his mouth. The sight no doubt gave Sherman renewed confidence in a man who was fast becoming his best friend. Walking over to Grant, Sherman looked down at the senior commander and said: "Well Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we."

Grant looked up. And with a puff on his cigar, which lit up his determined face in the darkness, Grant replied: "Yep. Lick 'em tomorrow though."
Just two regular Joes, trying to save a country.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11435 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 2:41 pm to
Am I the only one that reads all these Civil War threads in Shelby Foote’s voice?
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10608 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 2:42 pm to
Even though he was British, the actor who played Grant in Spielberg's "Lincoln" was spot-on.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 3:22 pm to
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Just two regular Joes, trying to save a country.
Nah, just two dudes busting their balls and doing the dirty work for fat elitist pigs looking out for their own money and greed, same with those that fought for the south. That is the true sadness of war. Good people fighting and dying for truly nothing

Only the history books write a side that “fought for what’s right” in all wars.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
9681 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 3:26 pm to
Love these threads

One of my ggg grandfathers was there and survived. Many of the dead from Shiloh are buried in my hometown of Columbus at Friendship Cemetery. It’s a very eery place to walk around. You’ll see confederate graves right next to a union soldier from Iowa
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23945 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 3:34 pm to
When we visited there several Yeats ago, I told my wife and kids, "I can hear the ghosts." One of the most, I don't have the right words to describe it, places I have ever been.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 4:01 pm to
There’s some cool Indian mounds there also
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98185 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 4:09 pm to
One of my ancestors was there as a 15 year old drummer boy.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8455 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Sherman tried to warn the insurrectionists before they started the war:


Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98775 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 4:43 pm to
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While riding on his horse, a bullet clipped the artery behind his knee. Unable to feel the wound due to nerve damage in his right leg, the Confederate general bled out until he collapsed off of his horse from blood loss. He went into shock and subsequently died.

Albert Sidney Johnston was the highest ranking officer to die in the American Civil War.


Far reaching impacts from this, both in that battle and the overall war.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36811 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 4:48 pm to
The South was Right. We are still feeling the effects today from the wrong turn America took.
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
868 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:21 pm to
Should not have to tell you this, but we haven’t given up yet.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33062 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:17 pm to
LINK

20 min video worth watching
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24986 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:18 pm to
Grew up maybe 15-20 miles from there.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145156 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

Sherman found Grant sitting in the mud, his back against a tree, hat slouched low over his face, a cigar in his mouth. The sight no doubt gave Sherman renewed confidence in a man who was fast becoming his best friend. Walking over to Grant, Sherman looked down at the senior commander and said: "Well Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we."

Grant looked up. And with a puff on his cigar, which lit up his determined face in the darkness, Grant replied: "Yep. Lick 'em tomorrow though."
two great men who saved this nation
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