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re: This "walkable cities" thing I keep hearing about...

Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:41 pm to
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The American dream is to not live as dense as European cities. Just different cultures.

I don’t think this is everyone’s American dream.

Fortunately, the US is geographically large enough to have plenty of lifestyle options. It doesn’t have to be one size fits all.

In general, metro areas with 1M+ people should be looking at ways to make cars more optional. As cities continue to grow, the infrastructure won’t be able to handle the added traffic. Increasing density will also help on the affordable housing front.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Would you rather walk through New Orleans and Baton Rouge or would you rather drive through those cities?


Posted by SPEEDY
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:44 pm to
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or would you rather drive through those cities?


Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:46 pm to
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Fortunately, the US is geographically large enough to have plenty of lifestyle options. It doesn’t have to be one size fits all.



It definitely has been a 'one size fits all' approach to urban planning, given how ubiquitous the strip mall and parking lot combination has become. Much of America is a parking lot, nothing more. It's been terrible, especially because American cities before WWII had wonderful architecture, with several beautiful neighborhoods torn down due to urban renewal and the interstate system.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Tell us you live on/near Magazine Street without telling us that you live on/near Magazine Sreet.


It's an obvious reference to the area by Prytania. Latter library, Liberto Cleaners, Kingpin, Creole Creamery, etc.

It's also an exaggeration. If one can walk to the Latter library in 90 seconds or fewer, they would be too far from Liberto or Wild Lotus to walk there in 90 seconds and vice versa. It's probably more like 150-180 seconds.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:59 pm to
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I don’t think this is everyone’s American dream


The American Dream, not everyone's American Dream.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:01 pm to
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In urban areas, you can absolutely make the areas walkable. More mixed use neighborhoods with no parking minimums and good public transportation


Yeah, you are ignoring that places like Asecension Parish or Walker are considered urban. The amount needed to make these areas walkable with public transit is just an ignorant use of money.

Especially when those who live there don't mind the inconvenience.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4919 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:01 pm to
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You don't think New Orleans is a walkable city?


no i dont.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38735 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:02 pm to
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Ban parking minimums.


Dallas is starting to do this.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:04 pm to
Curious what makes the west side unwalkable to you.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2237 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:05 pm to
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As cities continue to grow, the infrastructure won’t be able to handle the added traffic


This is the part most forget, urban infrastructure, while expensive at time to maintain, is significantly more efficient because so many people use it at the same time.

Suburban infrastructure is massively expensive to build and maintain, since its not being supported by many users. Suburban roads, sewer, water, etc. are highly subsidized by the government, that's the only way it would work to build.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32570 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:11 pm to
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no i dont.


What do you consider walkable then? WHD and Uptown (various areas) are definitely walkable.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9347 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:13 pm to
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We would be happier... if more areas were walkable and cars where banned.

There's no other way to put it. You people are sick and brainwashed.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:15 pm to
I don't think cars should be banned, but we build better communities without them.

No coincidence that the downfall of society parallels the rise of the car.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:15 pm to
Walkable city is a utopian pipe dream.

You can have walkable neighborhoods, not entire cities.

Urban utopians are insufferable. WHat made the USA great was the neighborhoods, that grew organically.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67144 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:16 pm to
Those who live along 42 are used to inconvenience
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:19 pm to
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There's no other way to put it. You people are sick and brainwashed.




Utopians who falsely believe their view is the correct view. No one else matters, just them and their little utopian fantasies.

These are the people who look at medieval European cities with their trains and narrow streets and believe it should be the norm in the USA, where its not organic

Its Euro jealousy.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7817 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:20 pm to
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you are ignoring that places like Asecension Parish or Walker are considered urban


You can make an area more walkable and bike friendly. You lack imagination.

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The amount needed to make these areas walkable with public transit is just an ignorant use of money.


The amount needed to build and maintain the roads is an ignorant use of money as well.

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Especially when those who live there don't mind the inconvenience.


That's fine; I advocate for walkable cities and I chose the best neighborhood that I could for that in HTX.

The less cars and more walking and biking in urban areas is just better for everyone. It's not a debate.

And by urban areas, I am talking about large metros, not Walker.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52836 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:20 pm to
Walkable cities are a threat to are culture.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7817 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:21 pm to
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This is the part most forget, urban infrastructure, while expensive at time to maintain, is significantly more efficient because so many people use it at the same time.

Suburban infrastructure is massively expensive to build and maintain, since its not being supported by many users. Suburban roads, sewer, water, etc. are highly subsidized by the government, that's the only way it would work to build.


Great post.

You are going to trigger the frick out of the suburbs bros when you call them out for the fact that their mere existence is heavily subsidized by those of us who reside in the city.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 2:22 pm
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