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re: This "walkable cities" thing I keep hearing about...
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:43 pm to caro81
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:43 pm to caro81
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i will concede that i havent tried this in New Orleans myself. But form everything ive seen, i dont see those qualifiers being possible, or at least without making some serious concessions to your own life that wouldnt make it more hassle than worth.
Towns are walkable not cities.
Utopians are living in the wrong environment.
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Screw that, a car is freedom.
A car is the illusion of freedom.
If cities had reliable, safe and on time public transportation options they would opt for that instead. People use cars because they are the least inconvenient method of transportation in almost every American metro outside of NYC and maybe Chicago.
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I live in a walkable area, can hit most restaurants and bars. Its such a minor convenience.
What point are you attempting to make here?
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Places that organically grow support walkable areas far better than you urban planners can do.
Ah yes, the DR Horton and other large tract neighborhoods that are thrown up everywhere are the epitome of "organic growth". GTFO with this absurd notion.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:45 pm to jclem11
You are completely ignoring property ownership and communities being built to accommodate what the community demands.
You want to design to restrict private property rights and tell the community what they want versus letting them choose.
Strip malls and traffic isn't for me, but you'd have to be willfully ignorant to not recognize the positives of that lifestyle.
We have room for both thoughts of design without a one size fits all solution for American cities.
You want to design to restrict private property rights and tell the community what they want versus letting them choose.
Strip malls and traffic isn't for me, but you'd have to be willfully ignorant to not recognize the positives of that lifestyle.
We have room for both thoughts of design without a one size fits all solution for American cities.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:46 pm to fightin tigers
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Much easier with a car, but that is true pretty much anywhere, no matter how walkable the city is.
i guess that's where we will just have a difference of opinion. the cities i considered walkable there were days where i just wanted to get rid of my car because it was a useless money cost. outside of driving my car once every couple of months to just keep it from sitting. i didnt drive for nearly 3 years.
Life would have been easier getting rid of the car.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:47 pm to fightin tigers
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America living as dense as any european city is just a bad idea.
What? FWIW, America's most dense city has a higher density per square mile than most European cities.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:47 pm to caro81
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Life would have been easier getting rid of the car.
So why didn't you?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:47 pm to jclem11
Imagine the brain of someone preferring this:
To this:
To this:
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:48 pm to jclem11
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Ah yes, the DR Horton
This is why no one takes you people serious. Nothing but zero sum drama, with no understanding of reality.
In between your little medieval German town and Youngsville, there's a shite load of ground to cover, for us not drama queens.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:48 pm to crazy4lsu
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What? FWIW, America's most dense city has a higher density per square mile than most European cities.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:48 pm to fightin tigers
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So why didn't you?
partially sentimental reasons, partially because i had never lived without a car before then so it felt weird.
no real sensible reason.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:49 pm to fightin tigers
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You are completely ignoring property ownership and communities being built to accommodate what the community demands
Amen. Need and opportunity are far more important than some utopian fantasy.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:49 pm to jclem11
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A car is the illusion of freedom.
Cars can go in any direction at any time and make as many or as few stops as the driver likes.
No public transportation can compare.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I know “anecdotally” is a hard word when you’re constantly drunk. But dictionaries are free online.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:51 pm to fightin tigers
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You are completely ignoring property ownership and communities being built to accommodate what the community demands.
Is it what the "Community demands" or is there other factors such as outdated zoning laws or NIMBYs preventing cities from changing?
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You want to design to restrict private property rights and tell the community what they want versus letting them choose.
Wat? I advocate for making cities better by banning parking minimums and change things over time.
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Strip malls and traffic isn't for me, but you'd have to be willfully ignorant to not recognize the positives of that lifestyle.
They are awful uses of land with the gigantic parking lots and owe there existence to the reliance on cars in America.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:51 pm to fightin tigers
I'm guessing you didn't know that, but it is true. You don't need an extremely high density per mile to have mixed use areas. Places like West Seattle are easily achievable with good zoning.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:52 pm to jclem11
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A car is the illusion of freedom.
Yes, humans need to be limited by design! All humans must conform to your little utopia.
Choice is freedom, youre anti choice.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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I'm guessing you didn't know that, but it is true. You don't need an extremely high density per mile to have mixed use areas. Places like West Seattle are easily achievable with good zoning.
Well, it is a bullshite fact, but I am laughing because I am assuming you mean NYC and still have your facts messed up.
NYC isn't even Top 10 when it comes to density compared to European cities.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes, humans need to be limited by design!
Freedom means waiting at the bus stop, not getting in your car and going when you want to.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:56 pm to crazy4lsu
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Places like West Seattle are easily achievable with good zoning.
Every city has walkable areas, I don't think anyone cares.
Its the people who want to push walkability on those who don't care for it. Its nice to have, if you want it, move somewhere walkable
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:59 pm to fightin tigers
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NYC isn't even Top 10 when it comes to density compared to European cities.
Link??
Wiki - List of Cities by population density
Manhattan is #9 per wikipedia ahead of any Euro cities...
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