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re: There’s about to be a female Green Beret

Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:10 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:10 am to
Shame
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:10 am to
Would you say the latter of these 2 is inherently better fit for combat just because of the chromosomes they were born with?

This chick would break the stick in half over her knee like she was bane and he was some malnourished Ethiopian version of Batman.





If we're putting instawhore cycle bunnies in combat, sure, fraternizing would be a concern, but I don't think the types of women who could make it through the process would be very lady like.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 11:12 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:11 am to
Gross
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:12 am to
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Who gives a shite? She's willing to put her life on the line to defend the country.
are we under attack? Nope. learn the difference between defense and offense.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:13 am to
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a fraternization risk


Anyone that has been around a group of males and females in a high stress environment knows that it makes them want to bang. And it happens constantly, look at the number of women sent home from Navy cruises pregnant.

Put her in a SF Group that is deployed and it will be a massive contest between the rest of the Team to see who can get in her pants. Sorry but its the truth.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:14 am to
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If we're putting instawhore cycle bunnies in combat, sure, fraternizing would be a concern, but I don't think the types of women who could make it through the process would be very lady like.

You need to Google the term "desert queen"
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:16 am to
Maybe she’s a lesbian
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:16 am to
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Would you say the latter of these 2 is inherently better fit for combat just because of the chromosomes they were born with?

This chick would break the stick in half over her knee like she was bane and he was some malnourished Ethiopian version of Batman.



Ok cool.

You found that rare diamond in the coal mine.

Tell me why continuing to look for more of them is worth the investment when there's dozens of men that are just as capable and likely more deadly than she is while being cheaper and uses less resources.

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If we're putting instawhore cycle bunnies in combat, sure, fraternizing would be a concern, but I don't think the types of women who could make it through the process would be very lady like.



If you're on tour long enough, you will get to a point where you will frick anything as long as it has a hole in it and women will get first priority.

An OT 5 here might as well be an OT 8 Afghanistan.

Hence why women are a fraternization risk.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 11:19 am
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:18 am to
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Anyone that has been around a group of males and females in a high stress environment knows that it makes them want to bang. And it happens constantly, look at the number of women sent home from Navy cruises pregnant.

Put her in a SF Group that is deployed and it will be a massive contest between the rest of the Team to see who can get in her pants. Sorry but its the truth.



Men and women do together what men and women together do.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:19 am to
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2015/09/10/mixed-gender-teams-come-up-short-in-marines-infantry-experiment/

Biology doesn't lie, and there is a large subjective component to these schools. If someone with enough rank says that they're going to pass, the cadre is going to pass them.
Posted by Seeker
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:19 am to
Unit cohesion mostly depends on if

1) she legitimately earned her spot it comes down to competently doing her job.

2) Not always feeling like she has something to prove

3) Give and take jokes like the other guys and not get sensitive while knowing they are going to be crass, crude, and overly misogynist undertones.

4) Keep her lady parts for non-unit members only.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:20 am to
Good for her. I think it’s really admirable and any keyboard commando that gives someone shite if they passed the requirements and are willing to die for their country is jut sad. Omg no women in the military, they can’t do this or that. Or we aren’t prepared to see a woman die (wtf kinda arguement is that) etc. No doubt this woman is a badarse and I would want to get on her wrong side.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:21 am to
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Biology doesn't lie, and there is a large subjective component to these schools. If someone with enough rank says that they're going to pass, the cadre is going to pass them.

The head of the Navy came out and said the results of those weren't valid because somehow the study wasn't done correctly. Needless to say the women who participated in that study were not happy with the comments.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:22 am to
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Would you say the latter of these 2 is inherently better fit for combat just because of the chromosomes they were born with


This is a cute gotcha, but making group decisions based on outliers is horrible, horrible policy.

If the course was run "straight" - neither would complete the SFAS, much less the Q course.

I was in reasonably decent shape as a young man. I always had trouble with the Army APFT run, but it wasn't for lack of effort. I completed 30 years of service and I was never remotely a suitably physically fit candidate for the U.S. Special Forces of any branch.

And I can assure you that no female is. Period.

It's more than just the pushups, situps and run (or whatever they do now, a drag, a shuttle run, it's all chaos now ). Combat fitness is tough enough to gauge, but special forces operate for long periods away from friendly bases and supply lines, in very austere conditions and women are not suitable for such environments. Period.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:22 am to
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Tell me why continuing to look for more of them is worth the investment when there's dozens of men that are just as capable and deadly as she is while being cheaper and uses less resources.


What does this even mean in regards to anything I've said here? I'm really only implying that if you can pass the test, you can pass the test. Yes, men are far more likely to be able to, but there are certainly women powerlifter types that can go toe to toe.

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If you're on tour long enough, you will get to a point where you will frick anything as long as it has a hole in it and women will get first priority.

An OT 5 here might as well be an OT 8 Afghanistan.


The kind of girls I'm talking about aren't even OT 5s. And this is all assuming this girl is passing the same standards as the men, which would mean a manly, muscular bull type looking girl.

If they lower standards, then I'm in 100% agreement with you.
Posted by NatalbanyTigerFan
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:22 am to
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I mean, I’ve met female law enforcement special agents I would not want to frick around with

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Georgia Fan


Pussy!
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:25 am to
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The head of the Navy came out and said the results of those weren't valid because somehow the study wasn't done correctly. Needless to say the women who participated in that study were not happy with the comments.



Trump's failure to get rid of the politicians in the pentagon, especially those of the SJW variety, is one of the biggest failures of his Presidency and has harmed the military.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:26 am to
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but making group decisions based on outliers is horrible, horrible policy.


I don't think I advocated for anything like this.

quote:

It's more than just the pushups, situps and run (or whatever they do now, a drag, a shuttle run, it's all chaos now ). Combat fitness is tough enough to gauge, but special forces operate for long periods away from friendly bases and supply lines, in very austere conditions and women are not suitable for such environments. Period.


No reasoning why, just a "I know so it's right"?
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:26 am to
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There's a 0% chance she got the same treatment or standards as her male counterparts


Not to mention at war she will still be treated differently by our military but unfortunately will be treated as an equal (or worse) by the enemy. Puts our own troops in unnecessary danger so that we can pretend men and women are equal at everything . Yay for political correctness.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:26 am to
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Men and women do together what men and women together do.



What does it matter if they do though. So long as she doesn’t get pregnant (I would assume she’s got an IUD) who cares if they frick. If two commando baws want to get up in each other brokeback style what would that matter either?
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