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re: There’s about to be a female Green Beret
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:20 pm to Sentrius
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:20 pm to Sentrius
quote:
Separation is the only effective means we have of ensuring those pregnancies don't happen.
And here's the maddening part: the military KNOWS this and admits it with their separation policies. Go to any forward area and there are specific rules about men in female barracks and vice versa. Why? If none of this stuff matters then why do they have those rules? Why do they pretend that it's going to impact mission effectiveness if a man sneaks into the female barracks, but two guys or two girls rooming together and screwing every night doesn't?
It's disappointing to have watched the military become a jobs program and social experiment during my lifetime. I steered my kids in other directions.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:20 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:I’m with you. I went through PLDC and it will always be PLDC
Darth_Vader
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:20 pm to yankeeundercover
Me too! Camp Jackson, Korea!
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:21 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:same here
I went through PLDC
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:26 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
It was changed to wlc about 15 years ago and I think they already changed it again.
Bet the standards were changed too.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:28 pm to northshorebamaman
BNCOC too... they dangle ANCOC in front of me to re-up and I was like, “No, I’m ready to decide where I’ve gotta be and when”
5.75 years US Army, E-6, two IQ tours, 8mo TDY to Paris Embassy.
I was just done.
5.75 years US Army, E-6, two IQ tours, 8mo TDY to Paris Embassy.
I was just done.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:31 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:I’ll never forget standing in front of a fricking tree and giving it D&C orders...
Bet the standards were changed too.
“Tree! Attennnn-huhhh! Righhhttt, face!”
US Army cadre sergeants were the first obnoxious frat stars
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:33 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:That would be the summer cadets.
US Army cadre sergeants were the first obnoxious frat stars
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:36 pm to northshorebamaman
Im talking about the SGT/SSGT’s who would come up with the most ridiculous bullshite at PLDC/BNCOC...
For instance, at BNCOC, you had to eat “square meals” where your hand/arm had to go up and then in towards your mouth, very deliberately, making a “square”... basically, scoop, up, in, bite, out, down
For instance, at BNCOC, you had to eat “square meals” where your hand/arm had to go up and then in towards your mouth, very deliberately, making a “square”... basically, scoop, up, in, bite, out, down
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:40 pm to demtigers73
quote:And....
What was your MOS, list your ASI/SQI, and length of service, so we can better understand your knowledge base.
Silence.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:41 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:It definitely felt like a race to the bottom sometimes.
For instance, at BNCOC, you had to eat “square meals” where your hand/arm had to go up and then in towards your mouth, very deliberately, making a “square”... basically, scoop, up, in, bite, out, down
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:53 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:The only people concerned with the “actual total nomenclature” of your job were in charge of the MTOE
ASI/SQI
97E was enough for a conversation at this level. I don’t even know what SERE, French, SUBESP, or RIED translated to in my “monicker”
I know you weren’t asking me, but jussayin
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:57 pm to DeltaDoc
They changed the course - the most difficult part, Small Units Tactics (SUT), has been downsized from six weeks to two weeks. That was the part of the course that wiped out a lot of candidates. It was a physical and mental grind that not many men and probably no women could pass. Some say it wasn’t necessary and needed to be changed, that it was just a more intense selection process all over again. Others suspect it’s been changed to allow women to pass the course. Go figure.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:20 pm to yankeeundercover
70H. I live the good life.
Petersen : Muldoon, I'm not a Marine. I believe in my comfort!

Petersen : Muldoon, I'm not a Marine. I believe in my comfort!
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:33 pm to Ace Midnight
I don’t know why this thread continues when you have this guy spewing facts and the experience to back them up.
You “white knights” need to log off this thread.
Combat is for men.
You “white knights” need to log off this thread.
Combat is for men.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:36 pm to Sentrius
quote:
Separation is the only effective means we have of ensuring those pregnancies don't happen.
No it’s not, mandate birth control and encourage them to practice anal.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 2:44 pm to MontanaTiger
So, they are teaching medics in two weeks now? That’ll work out great.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 2:51 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
I agree with this, but there is a bigger issue folks - even if she can acutely man up and complete this course on an "even" footing (although there is effectively a 0% chance this is actually true or could be true) with men, women as a group:
1. Are weaker per pound
2. Have lower bone density then comparably sized men
3. Have reproductive/urinary tract novelties compared to men, that
...in combination result in women in austere conditions, such as those experienced by combat units, breaking down at a much higher, more rapid rate than their male counterparts. Couple that with a special forces operational tempo and that will likely skyrocket over even conventional combat units.
This is all a social experiment that is wrong-headed and does not result in a more capable, effective fighting force. Period. Full stop.
Well said and 100% accurate.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 2:56 pm to Sentrius
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I do.
Women have no business in combat units, especially spec ops. They're an inefficient source of labor, a fraternization risk and a resource suck on taxpayer dollars and man hours.
There's a place for women in the military but it belongs in a desk as a paper pusher, support roles like medic, cook or whatever.
They don't belong in combat. I don't care how awesome the female recruit is because she is not the norm and does not make women worth the hassle of integrating women into combat units. This isn't a movie.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. Well said and 100% accurate.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 2:58 pm to Vito Andolini
This is the new normal though
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