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re: There’s about to be a female Green Beret
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:32 am to TH03
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:32 am to TH03
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Unless she went through a less intensive course than the males did, I see no problem.
From the article it sounds like she went through the normal Q course. I agree with you, if she can pass the Q course then I'm fine with it. It says there's another female in the process to but to become a medic.
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:34 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Confirmed: not hot
Her face is attractive. I bet with regular hair and makeup she would look good.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:34 am to Chad504boy
I would be willing to bet she isn't packing the "guns" Demi did in G.I. Jane.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:38 am to upgrayedd
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There's a 0% chance she got the same treatment or standards as her male counterparts
I agree with this, but there is a bigger issue folks - even if she can acutely man up and complete this course on an "even" footing (although there is effectively a 0% chance this is actually true or could be true) with men, women as a group:
1. Are weaker per pound
2. Have lower bone density then comparably sized men
3. Have reproductive/urinary tract novelties compared to men, that
...in combination result in women in austere conditions, such as those experienced by combat units, breaking down at a much higher, more rapid rate than their male counterparts. Couple that with a special forces operational tempo and that will likely skyrocket over even conventional combat units.
This is all a social experiment that is wrong-headed and does not result in a more capable, effective fighting force. Period. Full stop.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:39 am
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:38 am to DeltaDoc
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Before combat jobs were opened up to women, Capt. Kate Wilder passed the Special Forces Officer Course in 1980, but was denied graduation despite passing every single graded event, according to The New York Times.
After Wilder fought against the decision, the Army conducted an investigation and Wilder was issued a certificate of graduation in 1981. Wilder did not return to a Special Forces unit, but the Army said if she had, she would do so as a Green Beret.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:40 am to Ace Midnight
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This is all a social experiment that is wrong-headed and does not result in a more capable, effective fighting force. Period. Full stop.
It definitely won't do anything for unit cohesion if/when she gets to a team
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:42 am to Dr RC
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Who gives a shite? She's willing to put her life on the line to defend the country.
Exactly.
Whatever she had to do to become a green beret she did it. I don't know anything about whether what she had to go through was not as tough as what men had to go through, as some people on here implied.. But I do know she did what was required of her to do.. Because she wanted to serve her country.. While people who never served are on a message board trying to discredit her.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:45 am to athenslife101
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I mean, I’ve met female law enforcement special agents I would not want to frick around with. There may be situations that they’re not a good fit for whatever reason but that’s why you use personnel wisely.
Then you're a fricking cuck! Take away the gun, and all you have is an inferior bitch.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:46 am to OweO
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Whatever she had to do to become a green beret she did it. I don't know anything about whether what she had to go through was not as tough as what men had to go through, as some people on here implied.. But I do know she did what was required of her to do.. Because she wanted to serve her country.. While people who never served are on a message board trying to discredit her.
If I tell you that the standard distance a person has to walk to get $100 is 15 ft, you walk 2 ft, and I give you $100. Did you really meet the requirement of getting $100?
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:52 am to OweO
I agree, but think that is not the question. The question is whether she did everything required of her male counterparts.
It’ll likely be a while before we know the answer to that question.
I think the down range unit specific issues will be interesting as well. What dynamic shifts, if any, come into play...from restroom/shower accommodations to how she interacts, is accepted, protected, etc., will be a fascinating study.
It’ll likely be a while before we know the answer to that question.
I think the down range unit specific issues will be interesting as well. What dynamic shifts, if any, come into play...from restroom/shower accommodations to how she interacts, is accepted, protected, etc., will be a fascinating study.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:53 am to OweO
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But I do know she did what was required of her to do.
How do you know?
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While people who never served are on a message board trying to discredit her.
What was your MOS, list your ASI/SQI, and length of service, so we can better understand your knowledge base.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:57 am
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:57 am to upgrayedd
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If I tell you that the standard distance a person has to walk to get $100 is 15 ft, you walk 2 ft, and I give you $100. Did you really meet the requirement of getting $100?
i'd give oweo $100 if he walked 2 ft.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:58 am to DeltaDoc
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It’ll likely be a while before we know the answer to that question.
Thats the thing, these press releases are all the same. Women does the same tests, etc..., Then you hear from people in the same classes, and its a different story.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:00 am to CAD703X
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i'd give oweo $100 if he walked 2 ft.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:04 am to OweO
If it’s only 24 days then she just made it through selection. There’s another grueling 18 months of Q school before she’s “officially” a GB. I’ve seen a lot of guys pass selection and not make it through the Q course. Still, if she passed while meeting the same criteria as everyone else then more power to her.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:04 am to upgrayedd
Eh, but to be fair, she probably looks more like this:
Than this:
Than this:
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:06 am to TH03
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Unless she went through a less intensive course than the males did, I see no problem.
I do.
Women have no business in combat units, especially spec ops. They're an inefficient source of labor, a fraternization risk and a resource suck on taxpayer dollars and man hours.
There's a place for women in the military but it belongs in a desk as a paper pusher, support roles like medic, cook or whatever.
They don't belong in combat. I don't care how awesome the female recruit is because she is not the norm and does not make women worth the hassle of integrating women into combat units. This isn't a movie.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:06 am to TH03
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:08 am to OweO
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don't know anything about whether what she had to go through was not as tough as what men had to go through, as some people on here implied.. But I do know she did what was required of her to do
This is such a stupid statement. If she did what was required of her, but what was required is less than what is required of a man, then that’s a huge issue.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:09 am to TH03
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Unless she went through a less intensive course than the males did, I see no problem.
This. A female operator, used properly, could be very beneficial. The key is to use your assets properly.
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