re: The Roman Catholic church in Ireland opened its doors for Muslim prayers.

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DirtyDawg

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If you aren't going to read the 10 pages of debate and see your expression has already been debated and addressed for something you claim so much apathy for, then why even take the time to post? These threads always bring out all types, but truly the most fascinating to me our the "smart guys" who refuse to observe or contribute to the discussion/debate and just jump in with echo chamber blanket comments and then dismiss themselves because they have no actual intent on engagement, but just want to project onto others. In a month or so the same close minded "smart guys" will bounce right back in regurgitating blanket statements and ignoring any and all discussion preceding and succeeding their post.

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Muslim Cleric chanting prayers during the Mass

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I agree that this kind of cooperation is ridiculously wrong-headed and very offensive to all good Christians. DURING Mass? That is extremely provocative and destructive.

We can set aside a conversation about Muslim services in a Catholic Church at times other than when Mass is offered, but, Islamic prayers DURING Mass is just somebody intentionally being provocative, insulting and offensive.

Military installations usually have a Chapel building in which all Faiths hold services - but not simultaneously and at the same time!!

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What false Gods are being facilitated?


What false idols?

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Allah is not God. It's not the same God of Christianity, it's a distortion of God that doesn't encompass the trinity nor the attributes of God the father as recognized by orthodox Christians.

Nor is Muhammad a prophet or near-deity. Islam rejects original sin, etc.

These are not beliefs Christians should propagate nor help promote. Christian charity should not be confused with enabling/assisting falsehoods.

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Such a loving god that he makes sure that everyone feels nothing but pain and despair at some point in their life.

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You should give C.S. Lewis a read. Specifically, The Problem of Pain.

It begins thus:

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Not many years ago when I was an atheist, if anyone had asked me, “Why do you not believe in God?” my reply would have run something like this: “Look at the universe we live in. By far the greatest part of it consists of empty space, completely dark and unimaginably cold. The bodies which move in this space are so few and so small in comparison with the space itself that even if every one of them were known to be crowded as full as it could hold with perfectly happy creatures, it would still be difficult to believe that life and happiness were more than a bye-product to the power that made the universe. As it is, however, the scientists think it likely that very few of the suns of space—perhaps none of them except our own—have any planets; and in our own system it is improbable that any planet except the Earth sustains life. And Earth herself existed without life for millions of years and may exist for millions more when life has left her. And what is it like while it lasts? It is so arranged that all the [2]forms of it can live only by preying upon one another. In the lower forms this process entails only death, but in the higher there appears a new quality called consciousness which enables it to be attended with pain. The creatures cause pain by being born, and live by inflicting pain, and in pain they mostly die. In the most complex of all the creatures, Man, yet another quality appears, which we call reason, whereby he is enabled to foresee his own pain which henceforth is preceded with acute mental suffering, and to foresee his own death while keenly desiring permanence. It also enables men by a hundred ingenious contrivances to inflict a great deal more pain than they otherwise could have done on one another and on the irrational creatures. This power they have exploited to the full. Their history is largely a record of crime, war, disease, and terror, with just sufficient happiness interposed to give them, while it lasts, an agonised apprehension of losing it, and, when it is lost, the poignant misery of remembering. Every now and then they improve their condition a little and what we call a civilisation appears. But all civilisations pass away and, even while they remain, inflict peculiar sufferings of their own probably sufficient to outweigh what alleviations they may have brought to the normal pains of man. That our own civilisation has done so, no one will dispute; that it will pass away like all its predecessors is surely probable. Even if it should not, what then? The race is doomed. Every race that comes into being in any part of the universe is doomed; for the universe, they tell us, is running down, and will sometime be a uniform infinity of homogeneous matter at a low temperature. All [3]stories will come to nothing: all life will turn out in the end to have been a transitory and senseless contortion upon the idiotic face of infinite matter. If you ask me to believe that this is the work of a benevolent and omnipotent spirit, I reply that all the evidence points in the opposite direction. Either there is no spirit behind the universe, or else a spirit indifferent to good and evil, or else an evil spirit.”

There was one question which I never dreamed of raising. I never noticed that the very strength and facility of the pessimists’ case at once poses us a problem. If the universe is so bad, or even half so bad, how on earth did human beings ever come to attribute it to the activity of a wise and good Creator? Men are fools, perhaps; but hardly so foolish as that. The direct inference from black to white, from evil flower to virtuous root, from senseless work to a workman infinitely wise, staggers belief. The spectacle of the universe as revealed by experience can never have been the ground of religion: it must always have been something in spite of which religion, acquired from a different source, was held.

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With the current pope spewing progressive shite, Catholics have more in common with Muslims than they realize.

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westerners are held to a suicidal standard that no other people in the history of the planet have ever been held to.

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Karl Marx is laughing from his grave

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Not even close. The God of the Quran and the God of the Bible are extremely different.

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no - Judeo-Christian God the Father and Allah are both the same God of Abraham.

The Jews come from Isaac - Abraham’s son from his legal wife Sara, and Muslims come from Ishmael - Abraham’s son with Hagar (one of Sara’s servants and possibly a concubine of Abraham - Sara scoffs at God when He tells her she will have a child within the year, and says Abraham can sleep with Hagar)

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Where in the Quran does it mention, the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ...the foundation of the Christian Church.

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Jesus is Isa - the prophet - many similar stories in the Quran as in the Bible - but the Muslims don’t believe in His divinity.

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Where in the Quran does it mention,

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the birth

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"Remember when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word from Him, his name will be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest to Allah. -Surah Ali-Imran; 3:45"

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death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ

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"Jesus declared, “I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet. He has made me a blessing wherever I go, and bid me to establish prayer and give alms-tax as long as I live, and to be kind to my mother. He has not made me arrogant or defiant. Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I will be raised back to life!” That is Jesus, son of Mary. And this is a word of truth, about which they dispute. "Surah Maryam; 19:30-34"

Jesus/Yeshua/Messiah is referenced and revered in the Quran. He is just seen as a Holy Messenger and not the son of God. Allah is a unitarian deity as opposed to Yahweh whom is trinitarian.