re: The over representation of homosexuality

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Sexuality is usually set in stone during adolescence by mixture of belief systems, sexual experience, your level of testosterone. (A mother that is stressed overly stressed during pregnancy is also more likely to produce male children with lower testosterone.) Middle and high school children have over the past decade seen up to a 300% increase in homosexual and bi-sexual identification. The trend is wild to me.

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I am 55 yr old conservative white southern man. Even I will not argue against the premise that homosexuality is a genetic not learned behavior.

This 300% increase (link by the way?) you speak of is not an increase in the number of actual homosexual people and has nothing to do with testosterone levels, it is an increase in the number of people CHOOSING to identify as homosexual. It would be no different than I suddenly decided to be black. By doing so, I wouldnt affect the percent of people being black just like people choosing to be Gay does not increase the number of people being born Gay. The difference is, in this society, blacks would be allowed to highly skeptical, if not downright angry of my actions.

And just like with blacks most "real" homosexuals are skeptical of these mentally deranged people who actually believe you can "choose" to be Gay. The problem is our current society frowns upon them if they are skeptical or become downright angry with these "identifiers".

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What if young people are made to no longer be afraid of who they are? Do you have any idea how many people in the past were forced to hide who they are because of societal backlash?

Do you have data for that?

This may come as a shock to you but there are a hell of a lot more gay people than you think. But let's just keep that between you and me. For God sakes (pun intended) don't inform the Bible thumpers, because then they'd have to entertain the question of whether or not their Almighty God makes "mistakes" (homophobic explanation).

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I love when self ordained intellectuals such as yourself use the "prove something doesn't exist" tactic


"There are way more gays out there than you think, they just don't say anything so you're obviously wrong"

I was in a staff meeting yesterday. I can't dox myself, but I work for a consumer products company that many folks here own and I'm sure 99.9% are familiar with. As we were talking about DEI and how critical it was for our 2-3 year plan...and MANDATED by our retail partners... I couldn't help but chuckle to myself as I scanned the people seated at the table. 100% caucasian. 100% straight.

I remember when they just called it pandering.

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So your data confirms what I've said over and over again in this thread. Those people who used to have to hide their sexuality for fear of societal backlash, are now being told it is O.K. to be who they are.

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The number is somewhere around 20% for the current generation.

1/5th of a generation considers themselves LGBTQ.

You believe that that is the same percentage we would have seen in other generations had it been “more acceptable”?

Do you think it would be 1/5th if it was simply another “normal” and not something that was put on a pedestal?

Another example can be seen in some British cities.

In areas where trans is more accepted/pushed, the numbers have increased by over 4000%.

That is a statistical aberration, no matter how you try to make it make sense.

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So your data confirms what I've said over and over again in this thread. Those people who used to have to hide their sexuality for fear of societal backlash, are now being told it is O.K. to be who they are.

The number is somewhere around 20% for the current generation.

1/5th of a generation considers themselves LGBTQ.

You believe that that is the same percentage we would have seen in other generations had it been “more acceptable”?

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Why wouldn't it be? Is God making more "mistakes" today than he did years ago?

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In areas where trans is more accepted/pushed, the numbers have increased by over 4000%.

That is a statistical aberration, no matter how you try to make it make sense.

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I'm sure mixed in with those numbers are those simply being rebellious. Every generation has them. Those who think it's cool or edgy to be "different."

Again, I'm not sure where the problem is, other than now it's about being gay, so people are freaking out. Why?

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The number is somewhere around 20% for the current generation.

1/5th of a generation considers themselves LGBTQ.

You believe that that is the same percentage we would have seen in other generations had it been “more acceptable”?

Do you think it would be 1/5th if it was simply another “normal” and not something that was put on a pedestal?

Another example can be seen in some British cities.

In areas where trans is more accepted/pushed, the numbers have increased by over 4000%.

That is a statistical aberration, no matter how you try to make it make sense.

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Even a dolt like Bill Maher can look at the data and ask why kids in CA just so happen to be trannies at like 60000x the rate as the rest of the country.


These are the same people that, rather than addressing the underlying causes of declaring to be a tranny, say that the reason these people commit suicide at such an astronomical rate is because society makes fun of them.

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My kid came home from band practice the other day and said over 2/3 of the incoming freshmen in the band this year are either openly gay or bi.

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Being "bisexual" is the cool way to be included while also not having to commit. On national "Coming Out Day" I had way too many Facebook friends suddenly declare they were bisexual, all while admitting they had never been in a relationship with a member of the same sex.

When the Queen movie came out, the bisexual community got all huffy because the lead actress said Freddy was gay, and someone tried to make the argument that Freddy Mercury was bisexual but favored men.

By the same token, I'm bisexual and favor women.

People cosplay as victims for attention.

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Exactly. This explosion is only happening in areas where the lgbtq agenda is being pushed on kids. Kids are extremely susceptible to persuasion, especially young kids when the persuasion is coming from a respected authority figure. These kids are being brainwashed.

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Bro, this is totally organic. Kids should be able to permanently mutilate their bodies at age 5 because it's who they really are.

Of course they shouldn't be able to smoke or drink at that age because it's harmful to their health.

You can really see this when you look at the parents of the kids who are apparently trans. Take the 10 year old model. Not sure what they are but they project their ideals on their babies and it’s a shock that they end up wanting to feel that way? Toddlers want acceptance from their parents first. Parents who want trans kids and see their son playing with a doll as a sign of their new gender are a real problem. The kids who get close to adolescence and have friends who have those parents also want to be accepted… but now by their friends. It’s “cool” and “different.” It’s the new goth/emo/hippie of this generation. They certainly think they’re special but they’re just like every other generation. Only now instead of getting something pierced, they are being chemically castrated. Kind of a big deal.

I can already hearing the screeching, but this is a good example of why it’s useful to draw a distinction between sex and gender. Because while I would pushback against the assertions that societal pressures would markedly increase the number of transsexual or homosexual individuals, I absolutely think society could cause an increase (or decrease) in the number of transgender individuals.

To elaborate, if we are defining gender separately from sex and as a societal construct of behavioral norms, then yeah, the behavior of a kid’s friends might absolutely get him to think “you know what, frick it, I do want to wear leggings and nail polish”. But that’s not fundamentally different than a woman a century ago deciding to put on pants.

But I think there is a massive gulf between that and thinking that societal pressure would make someone find something/someone physically attractive that they would not have otherwise.