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Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:31 am to JudgeHolden
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You baws have 9,222 channels to watch. You can watch what you want, when you want. So why get so butthurt over some of them pushing an agenda you don’t like?
Do we though? You do know most people are waking up and not paying for cable, right?
What do you call it when every single media company and entertainment franchise forces gay and minority agenda drivel into their TV and movies?
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:31 am to TX Tiger
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And yet that was all perfectly acceptable...UNTIL the issue of gay came up. Now people are freaking out. Why?
People did not just start freaking out about brainwashing of children with the gay thing. People have been complaining about indoctrination in schools for a long time now.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:33 am to Scruffy
quote:Got it.
My post was merely in regards to your viewpoint that the numbers are a true representation, would have always looked that way, and appearing because of acceptance.
I disagree with that based on the significant increase in percentage over an extremely short period of time.
My question is why, if this kind of rebellious behavior has been going on for centuries, is everyone suddenly freaking out just because it's about being gay?
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:35 am to TX Tiger
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My question is why, if this kind of rebellious behavior has been going on for centuries, is everyone suddenly freaking out just because it's about being gay?
People are tired of it being forced on children, primarily.
Others don’t want it being inserted into properties they care about, which is being done for political reasons
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:36 am to Joshjrn
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I can already hearing the screeching, but this is a good example of why it’s useful to draw a distinction between sex and gender. Because while I would pushback against the assertions that societal pressures would markedly increase the number of transsexual or homosexual individuals, I absolutely think society could cause an increase (or decrease) in the number of transgender individuals.
To elaborate, if we are defining gender separately from sex and as a societal construct of behavioral norms, then yeah, the behavior of a kid’s friends might absolutely get him to think “you know what, frick it, I do want to wear leggings and nail polish”. But that’s not fundamentally different than a woman a century ago deciding to put on pants.
But I think there is a massive gulf between that and thinking that societal pressure would make someone find something/someone physically attractive that they would not have otherwise.
This is the nonsense that allows these groomers to do their work.
You think that this is some sort of argument based in rational thought. It isn't. It's merely using pseudo-science to push an agenda and it sucks in people like you because you think you sound enlightened by going along with it.
This is nothing more than politically charged, academia-based social science used to push an agenda on kids. And midwit adults eat it up because it makes them feel like they're smart and progressive.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:37 am to ell_13
quote:So, it's not about gay is it. It's about bad parenting.
UNTIL the issue of gay came up. Now people are freaking out. Why?
Chemical castration. See my last post.
Two different things. But look at the homophobes using it to make their point.
That's my point.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:37 am to upgrayedd
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This is the nonsense that allows these groomers to do their work. You think that this is some sort of argument based in rational thought. It isn't. It's merely using pseudo-science to push an agenda and it sucks in people like you because you think you sound enlightened by going along with it. This is nothing more than politically charged, academia-based social science used to push an agenda on kids. And midwit adults eat it up because it makes them feel like they're smart and progressive.
Your ad hominem dismissal of my entire post is noted
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:38 am to TX Tiger
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But look at the homophobes
Look at this stupid mass media bullshite.
Everyone I disagree with is a racist or homophobe. You people have a perpetual victim complex.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:38 am to Joshjrn
That's a huge word salad there.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:40 am to Joshjrn
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Your ad hominem dismissal of my entire post is noted
You literally made no new or fresh arguments that haven't been used to justify this stuff. I know you think what you said sounds smart and all, but it's just the same social science shite we've heard regurgitated a thousand times before. It's not the enlightened piece of cutting edge science you think it is. Sorry to hurt your ego.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:41 am to Deactived
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That's a huge word salad there.
Exactly.
It's hallmark of the "I'm just a science-loving moderate who's above parties and politics" self-righteous midwit.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:41 am to TX Tiger
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this kind of rebellious behavior has been going on for centuries, is everyone suddenly freaking out just because it's about being gay?
So being gay is about being rebellious? I thought liberals were telling us they were born that way?
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:41 am to TX Tiger
quote:There are religious reasons and social ones.
My question is why, if this kind of rebellious behavior has been going on for centuries, is everyone suddenly freaking out just because it's about being gay?
Religious ones are fairly obvious.
Social could stem from the concept of procreation and population replacement, with subsequent concerns about societal disharmony and unrest.
And as for parents, it has, in some situations (specifically trans), significant irreversible impacts on the futures of their children, with many people believing the forces behind the constant push have nefarious intentions.
Just spit-balling.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:42 am to Joshjrn
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Because while I would pushback against the assertions that societal pressures would markedly increase the number of transsexual or homosexual individuals,
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:42 am to upgrayedd
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You think that this is some sort of argument based in rational thought. It isn't.
Correct.
You can call yourself a unicorn fairy and I don't give a rats arse, but don't expect me to participate in your mental delusions.
frick their pronouns. They can find their little collective to play tea party with, I'll treat them with the respect they earn.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 9:44 am
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:43 am to jchamil
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People did not just start freaking out about brainwashing of children with the gay thing. People have been complaining about indoctrination in schools for a long time now.
Count me in as one of those. Maybe if we refused to accept their bullshite, it wouldn't pack the same punch? Again, it goes back to parenting and has nothing whatsoever to do with the "gay" issue.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:45 am to Joshjrn
quote:Maybe, but that doesn't mean that doesn't happen in a not insignificant number. We routinely undersell the influence of media and others a kid is surrounded by. Billions are spent anually to influence behavior because it works. Catch enough kids who haven't a strong sense of self and they certainly can be moved to act in ways they wouldn't otherwise. Acceptance by a group of someone awash in insecurity and uncertainty is a powerful, powerful influence.
But I think there is a massive gulf between that and thinking that societal pressure would make someone find something/someone physically attractive that they would not have otherwise
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:47 am to TX Tiger
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But look at the homophobes using it to make their point.
Gays spent decades arguing the fact that homosexuality is a genetic trait and not a lifestyle choice.
Are these genetically born Gay people being homophobes when they call out the lunacy of people choosing to identify as Gay and being accepted by society as such?
Or is the fact that so few of them seem to be doing so publicly in itself a form of homophobia by those that have hijacked the definition of homosexual by reverting it BACK to being a lifestyle choice?
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:49 am to Jake88
quote:We already have wonderful case studies out there (unofficially).
Maybe, but that doesn't mean that doesn't happen in a nit insignificant number. We routinely undersell the influence of media and others a kid is surrounded by. But billions are spent to influence behavior because it works. Catch enough kids who haven't a strong sense of self and they certainly can be moved to act in ways they wouldn't otherwise. Acceptance by a group of someone awash in insecurity and uncertainty is a powerful, powerful influence.
There is a huge difference in “representation” rates between states that push the topic compared to others that are less likely to do so.
The difference in “prevalence” is staggering.
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