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re: The over representation of homosexuality

Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:43 am to
Posted by Utah Tiger
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:43 am to
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I am 55 yr old conservative white southern man. Even I will not argue against the premise that homosexuality is a genetic not learned behavior.


You make some good points based on the genetic premise, But if you read about "Epigenetics" you know that your genes do not control your destiny but that your environment is very important also. A gene's environment controls a gene's expression and turns it ON and Off. That is another reason that I believe homosexuality is a combination of both your genetics and environment (psychology, beliefs, society etc)
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299054 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:16 pm to
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You've been pretty clear.

You think people pushing back at the very clear agenda of pushing a gay/transgender agenda/lifestyle on kids is homophobic


I have no idea why gays chain themselves to this transgender thing. It makes a parody of the Alphabet people.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:28 pm to
Will change help
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 12:38 am
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:35 pm to
Not going to happen
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 12:37 am
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Social engineering has been going on for centuries. This is nothing new. It's 24/7/365 and always has been.


So we aren’t supposed to call it out and fight against it?
Of course we should.

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But let the issue of gay become involved


We’ve been through this. Plenty of gay content out there. It hasn’t become an issue for people until it has gotten in elementary schools and the muppets and Lightyear for no reason at all. And then people are seeing everywhere. I have gay friends who are getting fed up with it.
They're smart enough to understand that this is only being done to divide us and strengthen the hatred for them, as illustrated BY SOME on this board.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12252 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:51 pm to
Yes in damn near every show that’s based in a small town. There’s always a minority character, gay character or an out spoken female character.

Ridiculous
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32878 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 1:07 pm to
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The majority of Americans do not agree with homosexuality or gay marriage.


I know you will just tell me that public opinion polls are a grand liberal conspiracy, but polling numbers in favor of legalized gay marriage generally hover between 65-70% at this point.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 1:19 pm to
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I know you will just tell me that public opinion polls are a grand liberal conspiracy, but polling numbers in favor of legalized gay marriage generally hover between 65-70% at this point.


I still laugh at CA voting it down....

Then leftists blamed homophobic republicans for it.

When is the last time it was put to a vote?

PS - Before groomers attack, I was pro gay marriage before Obama and Hillary were.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32878 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 1:35 pm to
Prop 8 failed 52/48 in 2008. Opinion has shifted significantly in the last decade and a half.

Skip the first few, as that’s all reaction to SCOTUS, but just skim down until you find question wording you like: LINK
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299054 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Then leftists blamed homophobic republicans for it.


Yeah, In California which we know is a right wing stronghold.

There's nothing they'll not blame on the other guy. Even their own dysfunction.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87989 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 1:42 pm to
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They're smart enough to understand that this is only being done to divide us and strengthen the hatred for them
No. They simply feel used as a prop for every show/commercial to virtue signal. Now these are mostly lesbians I know who don’t want any attention or care how people feel. They’re too independent and happy to give a shite. They just want to be able to marry and fertilize their eggs when they’re ready. Once they had that, they didn’t need anything else. True acceptance comes naturally as the people around you understand you’re the same person you always were. You simply love who you love. It doesn’t come by seeing Gonzo in a dress or two women in Lightyear kissing.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11743 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 1:56 pm to
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There is nothing genetic that has ever been proven about homosexuality nor or they even close to finding it.



I was over my skis when I used the term genetics as it is way beyond my level of knowledge. My mistake.

I do 100% stand by my belief that certain people are born with homosexual traits and did not merely select it as a lifestyle choice. I think its a disservice to these people to lump them in with the same people who are experimenting with their sexuality and call it "Identifying as".
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But what does it prove even if they do find it??? Down syndrome is genetic, Turner syndrome, Trisomy 18, Trisomy 13, etc... There are hundreds of genetic disorders that are not normal.


Well if it were proven genetically, it would likely be celebrated by those with that genetic trait? Hell, if I had some sort of sexual deviation I would be damn relieved to have it proven I had no choice in the matter. As for it being an abnormal genetic trait, I would agree. How could anyone not? Homosexuality is just not that prevalent, especially when you eliminate the wack jobs that are choosing it as a lifestyle.

To make it clear, in this context, I'm using the words deviant and abnormal in their literal sense, not as a means to judge. However, with wack job I am most definitely judging.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79911 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 2:40 pm to
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I do 100% stand by my belief that certain people are born with homosexual traits and did not merely select it as a lifestyle choice. I think its a disservice to these people to lump them in with the same people who are experimenting with their sexuality and call it "Identifying as"
There are other cases. Those that are a product of their environment and it's a subconscious result.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 2:57 pm to
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They're smart enough to understand that this is only being done to divide us and strengthen the hatred for them


No. They simply feel used as a prop for every show/commercial to virtue signal.
Correct. For the purpose of further dividing us and intensifying the hatred towards them.

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Now these are mostly lesbians I know who don’t want any attention or care how people feel. They’re too independent and happy to give a shite. They just want to be able to marry and fertilize their eggs when they’re ready. Once they had that, they didn’t need anything else. True acceptance comes naturally as the people around you understand you’re the same person you always were. You simply love who you love. It doesn’t come by seeing Gonzo in a dress or two women in Lightyear kissing.
Of course, that's the way it should be. But it never will be.

Do you know why? Because the powers that be don't want that. They want us divided and at each other's throats. They know that if we as a nation were ever to band together, we would hold the power. They can't allow that to happen.

It's the same reason why racism is constantly thrown in our face rather than just letting us all live our lives and find out that people pretty much want the same thing regardless of their skin color.

Same with this juvenile game of left vs. right.

Divide and conquer. It's been a winning formula for centuries.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 3:03 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 3:10 pm to
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They will never be able to find a genetic gene for homosexuality.
Of course not. Because then they'd have to admit that God made a "mistake" (in their eyes). Can't just go around questioning religion.
Posted by Amon
Member since Jun 2020
300 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 3:47 pm to
On crunch day they will be the first to go. Let them have their moment.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7311 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 4:15 pm to
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Again, this is just absurd. You aren't going to talk a child into becoming gay.


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Again, this is just absurd. You aren't going to talk a child into becoming gay.


O-k-k-k-k-k-k-kay...

Four-year-old kid announces transition to male gender with reveal


A couple of examples I have as well:

1. I have an acquaintance (she's female) who has a brother who came out as trans several years ago. This brother was married to a woman, ended up getting a divorce and now has completely transitioned into being a woman. I believe she is legally a woman now on her drivers license. This acquaintance has 3 children, 2 boys and a girl. The are now maybe 14, 12, and 9. Middle boy, when he was fairly young, like to play with lots of girl toys, liked pink, my little pony, etc. So mom proceeds to buy him that stuff because it didn't matter to her. At age 7-8, he's wearing t shirts to school that are a bit girlish. At age 11, right before Jr. high, he comes out as trans, dresses totally as a girl, and changes his name to a girl name.

No way that having parents who no only accepted, but encouraged this didn't affect him. So did the uncle/aunt situation. So my guess is that he's only puberty blockers, etc. and will completely transition.

2. I read an article written by an adult, married woman. She is happy with her hubby and children. She was very much a tomboy. Not only did she play sports, go to college on a volleyball scholarship, but she also liked doing manly, guy-type chores. She had no interest in anything at all girly. She feels that if she had gone through HS and college now, she'd probably be a lesbian. However, she say she is definitely not one. She like being married. She likes sex with men. She likes to dress up in a dress and go out every now and then. However, she still likes sports and tends to still do lots of manly chores, fixes things, etc. She feels that she would pretty much have been told in this day and age, that she obviously must like women, based on her other characteristics. This is why teenagers shouldn't be making those kinds of decisions at that time in their life. Give it a few years. Have more experiences. Make sure they understand sex, relationships, etc. before they make a lifechanging decision.

Kids can absolutely be influenced in this manner.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:04 pm to
Not sure
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 12:37 am
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