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re: The high cost of maintenance on European luxury cars is a feature, not a bug
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:19 am to Jizzy08
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:19 am to Jizzy08
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or you’re broken down on the side of the road in your BMW,
Had a BMW for 6 years and got it up to 100k miles. Was never unreliable in that it never broke down or stuck me anywhere. But damn, post-warranty repairs and maintenance were expensive. Got to the point where I could no longer justify pouring thousands into the car even though I liked it.
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:21 am to Jizzy08
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Reliability is the most important feature of a vehicle. When your Audi is in the shop half the year or you’re broken down on the side of the road in your BMW
Where do you people get these ideas?
Take them in for their regular every 10k maintenance (which isn’t any more expensive than the Honda I used to have to take in every 5k) and the German luxury cars don’t break down any more often than any other car.
This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 10:25 am
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:23 am to biglego
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The high ownership cost keeps the poor from buying these cars, yes
No, it just keeps the poor from driving them. The resale values tank from day 1 and at some point people buy them thinking "hey free luxury car". 6-12 months later you get a Mercedes with air ride crapped out or sunroof stuck open, a $3500 bill to fix (or more). The owner then lets the car go downhill until it is inoperable. Then you see it on the twin span at 100mph+ racing.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:34 am to weagle1999
I love Porsches but they are expensive. For example, with every brake change you have to change the rotors on all Porsche models. You also need to keep a diagnostic scanner in your car for when the codes pop up. Most of them are for extremely minor issues, but it is a bit discerning when my 911 warning light comes on and says “Drive to Shop”. The first day I owned the car it popped up and I decided to continue driving to work and to schedule an appointment later. It was a lifter sticking and I barely made it to the next exit. $9000 later I got to enjoy my new purchase.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:36 am to tadman
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people buy them thinking "hey free luxury car". 6-12 months later you get a Mercedes with air ride crapped out or sunroof stuck open, a $3500 bill to fix (or more). The owner then lets the car go downhill until it is inoperable.
Damn....hitting close to home here..
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:39 am to weagle1999
Driving a high end car is a financial flex for people?
Wow, what a hot take.
Wow, what a hot take.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:41 am to RedPants
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Take them in for their regular every 10k maintenance
Keeping up with the maintenance schedule is vital yet 99/100 people don’t do it.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:51 am to biglego
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The high ownership cost keeps the poor from buying these cars, yes
Not from what I see. They flock to pre-owned BMW, Jaguar, and Mercedes like a bug light.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:52 am to weagle1999
Doesn’t mean that much to me to mean that much to you…
Far more productive mindset.
Far more.
Far.
Far more productive mindset.
Far more.
Far.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 10:54 am to weagle1999
I’d rather just own a Honda or Toyota and not have to frick with all that personally.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:07 am to weagle1999
If/when this HGRAF hits $600/share, I am buying my wife a truck.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:31 am to RedPants
quote:The part in italics is absurd and laughable.
Take them in for their regular every 10k maintenance (which isn’t any more expensive than the Honda I used to have to take in every 5k) and the German luxury cars don’t break down any more often than any other car.
There’s simply no lucid representation that can be made in this universe that maintaining a German car (even a VW) is done as cheaply as maintaining a Honda automobile.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 11:42 am to weagle1999
Didn’t even mention having to put premium gas in them. You’d have to be an idiot to drive one of those things. Doesn’t matter how much money you have.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:30 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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BMW's with the B58 engine would surprise you with their reliability.
You got some downvotes on this. My friends wife has one of these and he really likes it as does she. It's about 7 years old.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:52 pm to weagle1999
European cars are designed with the thought that you will maintain your vehicle at regular intervals with all of the recommended maintenance.
Japanese vehicles are designed with the thought that a lot of people are stupid and won't do that, so it needs to run regardless.
American cars are somewhere in between depending on manufacturer.
Japanese vehicles are designed with the thought that a lot of people are stupid and won't do that, so it needs to run regardless.
American cars are somewhere in between depending on manufacturer.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:25 pm to weagle1999
I bought a used BMW during a midlife crisis and fortunately it’s held up well. It was a dumb decision but at least I’ve been lucky that it’s a good car that hasn’t needed anything beyond routine maintenance.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:54 pm to soccerfüt
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There’s simply no lucid representation that can be made in this universe that maintaining a German car (even a VW) is done as cheaply as maintaining a Honda automobile.
I’m referring to the regularly scheduled maintenance of both. You take the German car in less overall throughout the cost of ownership. Are the visits more expensive? Yes. But when you’re taking it in every 10k vs 5k, it evens out.
Now if you’re asking about when something breaks? I wouldn’t know. Nothing major has ever broken on one of our German cars. Mainly because we adhere to the maintenance schedule.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:57 pm to RedPants
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Where do you people get these ideas?
Mostly from experience. My in laws each had brand new Audis purchased brand new the same year. Both had major issues and were in the shop almost every time we visited them. They sold both and each got a Toyota. Not a single problem since.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 2:27 pm to weagle1999
Mrs PJack drives a Lexus because she wants to think of herself as wealthy. I support it because when she needs anything she pulls into the dealership and drives away in a loaner which makes my life much easier. Lexus doesnt cost much more than a Toyota either, unless you shop on the top end of what they offer
Posted on 6/16/26 at 3:21 pm to Jizzy08
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When your Audi is in the shop half the year or you’re broken down on the side of the road in your BMW, there’s nothing luxurious about that.
German cars are much more reliable than many people think. The issue is that MANY owners defer maintenance, especially on the big-ticket services they don't think are necessary. This hits second owners really hard because they get sold right about the time things start breaking due to lack of maintenence. I sell all my German cars provately into a niche market where the people buying them pay a premium for a car that has been meticulously maintained and the documentation is OCD level.
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