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re: The era of the company man is over
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:43 am to Cosmo
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:43 am to Cosmo
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Also I only watched 10 seconds
What is she complaining about?
I got about halfway through, it seems like her husband was fired because the company is over-reliant on shitty contractors who sub out to shitty sub-contractors who then sub out to shitty sub-subcontractors. Hubby didn't like the shitty job they were doing so he complained. The result is that the contractors created or over-emphasized issues in order to get him fired.
IE: the issue, at least as far as I got into it, was relying on contractors.
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:54 am to doc baklava
Only if you work for a 100-500 employee private family owned company, can you be a company man where you will have a job until you are 65 and maybe more if you want to keep working. only way you get let go , other than drug use in the office or something crazy like that, is if they go bankrupt.
Publicly traded Mega corp ? you can be 57 with 30+ years and you'll be canned when there is a slight downturn and the shareholders want better returns.
Publicly traded Mega corp ? you can be 57 with 30+ years and you'll be canned when there is a slight downturn and the shareholders want better returns.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:56 am to doc baklava
Sadly this is true, and 20 years sounds about right. Your company doesn't care about you unless maybe you work for a small mom/pop operation, and if you find that, be loyal to them.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:01 am to jbgleason
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Typical woman. Always demanding another inch
We’ve all given them 9” and they demand 10”, am I right, fellas? Damn needy bastards.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:05 am to doc baklava
That was so annoying im now firmly on the side of the company.
Disclaimer: I only made it through about 30 seconds of that.
Disclaimer: I only made it through about 30 seconds of that.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:06 am to Tridentds
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The primary job of the HR department nowadays is to prevent the company from being sued when someone is let go. That's it. All about reducing the liability to the company and nothing else.
I thought it was a made up role to get women into the workplace
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:20 am to doc baklava
Wants it to land on the front page of the contractor's, but doesn't name them. Ask them to look her in the eyes and tell her if it was worth it to them; well, they still have a job/contract.
And if the issue was about the specs of the job, then there is proof of the contractor's nonperformance that her hubby would be able to utilize. Unless, there is something else she is not telling us, or he did not tell her
And if the issue was about the specs of the job, then there is proof of the contractor's nonperformance that her hubby would be able to utilize. Unless, there is something else she is not telling us, or he did not tell her
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:21 am to doc baklava
I don't thinks she really knows the difference between 9 inches and ten.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:22 am to Jim Rockford
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The flip side of that is I have no loyalty to my employer because he has none to me. I'll go the extra mile if I perceive it benefits me. If not, I won't. If I jump to another job and leave my employer in a bind, sucks for him but its not like he wouldn't lay me off on Christmas Eve if it would make his quarterly reports look better.
One of the last straws for me before I resigned was listening to HR complain on a company-wide managers call about long-term illnesses and deaths of employees or their spouses and how it caused their insurance costs to increase. I get that it's true, but how do you think it makes your employees feel to hear you complain about it? Keep those conversations for the executive team only.
My division head was pissed that I resigned and did not speak to me during my last few weeks there. And I gave them way more than 2 weeks notice. But I repeatedly asked for new hires because I needed help and they repeatedly said no. And since I've left, they're hired multiple new people to take over all the responsibilities I handled on my own. I guess he's more mad because it hurt his bottom line. After all, the football suites and company cars and company plane won't pay for themselves.
Now I work for myself and make more money doing less work.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:22 am to Willie Stroker
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Willie Stroker
Then frick the 2 weeks' notice of quitting and doing anything above the bare minimum.
Works both ways, pal.
You can't demand loyalty with no extra benefit to the worker and then cry like a baby back bitch when said worker leaves. lmao.
frick your shareholder value.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:25 am to Weekend Warrior79
While this situation could be totally true, it could also be a case of the husband telling the wife some BS and not the real reason he was fired.
That said, big companies are very soulless. They put on these cheerleading sessions and talk about how they are different and how much they appreciate and want to foster the best environment for you. But let things get a little bumpy and they will boot you out without even thinking about it. I just roll my eyes at all that crap.
All that said, while I firmly believe company loyalty is dead and I have zero and will move at any time if it benefits me, while you are on the job and getting a check, you should give your best effort. Don't want to do that, work for yourself. If someone is paying you for a job and you are giving it the best you have, then you are a worthless POS. No one deserves or is entitled to a job.
That said, big companies are very soulless. They put on these cheerleading sessions and talk about how they are different and how much they appreciate and want to foster the best environment for you. But let things get a little bumpy and they will boot you out without even thinking about it. I just roll my eyes at all that crap.
All that said, while I firmly believe company loyalty is dead and I have zero and will move at any time if it benefits me, while you are on the job and getting a check, you should give your best effort. Don't want to do that, work for yourself. If someone is paying you for a job and you are giving it the best you have, then you are a worthless POS. No one deserves or is entitled to a job.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:25 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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High performers get protected in RIFs,
Not always true. If said high performer is perceived as "too expensive" and the company can get "good enough" value from a different worker for 30% less, the high performer will be let go.
See it all the time with senior engineers and geologists at oil & gas companies.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:29 am to doc baklava
Sounds like hubby was adequate performer at best and, likely outperformed by contractor that is variable cost (ie, can be flexed with dynamic budgets year on year) and was “ventilated” out.
Now. soulmate can’t make payment on church glass sun roof.
I am probably more right than wrong.
In the unlikely case that I am more wrong than right, marry-not your job. Your time and little things in family/life are far more important than whatever corporate BS they are selling you so big bosses get their big bonuses, under the guise of shareholder value.
Now. soulmate can’t make payment on church glass sun roof.
I am probably more right than wrong.
In the unlikely case that I am more wrong than right, marry-not your job. Your time and little things in family/life are far more important than whatever corporate BS they are selling you so big bosses get their big bonuses, under the guise of shareholder value.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:30 am to TheHarahanian
quote:Gonna need pics of her to see who’s side I’m taking.
She’s 5 years younger than me.
TIA
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:31 am to doc baklava
You're owed nothing except what you are paid and what you can manage to save through sacrifice.
This is nothing new. The company is looking out for it's own interests and if you're not looking out for yours then you're setting yourself up to fail. Or at least not advance as much as you should or could.
If you are in an industry where the company you work for is the only game in town and there is nowhere to move to to advance yourself, then your industry is ripe for competition and you should open you own firm because there are 100 of people like you wanting to move up but have nowhere to move to.
The only people who should be working they life away giving endless time to the company are 1) the owner, 2) maybe single people.
If you have a family, your family is your top priority and the best way to serve your family is not by never seeing them because you feel like you have to work you life away to "provide" for them.
You'll reach the same conclusion the everyone reaches in life that has/had a family. The thing they need most it YOU. as in your valuable time.
Oh and crying on social media doesn't put you in the light you think it does.
This is nothing new. The company is looking out for it's own interests and if you're not looking out for yours then you're setting yourself up to fail. Or at least not advance as much as you should or could.
If you are in an industry where the company you work for is the only game in town and there is nowhere to move to to advance yourself, then your industry is ripe for competition and you should open you own firm because there are 100 of people like you wanting to move up but have nowhere to move to.
The only people who should be working they life away giving endless time to the company are 1) the owner, 2) maybe single people.
If you have a family, your family is your top priority and the best way to serve your family is not by never seeing them because you feel like you have to work you life away to "provide" for them.
You'll reach the same conclusion the everyone reaches in life that has/had a family. The thing they need most it YOU. as in your valuable time.
Oh and crying on social media doesn't put you in the light you think it does.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:34 am to Snipe
quote:
You're owed nothing except what you are paid and what you can manage to save through sacrifice.
This is nothing new.
This is actually relatively new and not a good thing
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:37 am to doc baklava
-HR, the single most useless dept ever invented---
Not sure 'ever' is proper even
now that Trump has canceled all D.E.I. departments
Not sure 'ever' is proper even
now that Trump has canceled all D.E.I. departments
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:38 am to Cdawg
quote:
I know I'm a cynical a-hole but she's speaking for her husband. Something else happened. Any large company HR would see this model employee and keep them around or move them to another department.
Yeah, I was with her until she threw in it was her husband and not her. He isn't telling her something.
And a contractor is a vendor not a customer. Tough shite if your vendor is complaining. You are paying them - they aren't paying you.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:40 am to doc baklava
HR should be called "CR" because they are there for the company, not for the human.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:43 am to Tiger Ryno
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Lawsuit is the only way forward.
I used to be opposed to this attitude......
Now I think that it may be necessary to be open to this mindset to protect yourself.
Nobody trusts HR for good reason. At best it's a "do nothing" department mostly full of people that aren't required to produce results. At worst their only encounters with model employees are when they serve as the angel of death.
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