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re: The engineers of the 2015 Ford Escape are POS's

Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17175 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:49 pm to
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Ford




I think I've found your problem.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31164 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:55 pm to
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Hell, the battery in my wife's Ferrari 355 is in the damn bumper on the passenger side.


While it seems crazy to have it forward of the front wheelwell it makes perfect sense from a vehicle dynamics POV. On the track, you usually have just the driver so the battery needs to be on the passenger side to help balance that weight, as far outboard as possible since the battery weighs less than even an Italian. You want it as low as possible to help keep the COG low. The rear weight bias of mid-engine cars makes putting it as far forward as possible advantageous. So for a mid-engine car in front of the front wheel well makes perfect engineering sense. Following this reasoning is why most BMWs, for example, have the battery behind the rear tire well in the passenger side of the trunk.

Ferrari moved it just past the footwell on the passenger side in the 360, you open the compartment and slide it out into the passenger floorboard.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:58 pm to
That's fine on a performance car.

Ridiculous on a CUV.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22328 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:58 pm to
At least it wasn't the american engineers. the platform was fully designed by euros.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13856 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Holy frick, I didn't think this could be true, but I'll be damned it is.

Look at the shite this guy has to go through to change the battery in his Ferrari.



Well s.o.b.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 3:52 pm to
Don't blame Ford. Since the 60's automobile "engineering" has been all about getting 10 pounds of shite in a 5 pound bag.

The early 90's Honda Accord my wife had when we met, required me to drop the front suspension to get to the alternator.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 3:53 pm to
Buy a titan and change the starter.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4635 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 3:54 pm to
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Hell, the battery in my wife's Ferrari 355 is in the damn bumper on the passenger side.


Hey, your wife's Ferrari and my old Concorde have the same setup! What are the odds?

Step one of replacing the battery was jacking up the passenger front wheel enough to take it off.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36415 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 3:54 pm to
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First off to change the battery you have to take like 5 things off the engine just to get to it, total pain in the arse.


It's not just Ford. This has been general automotive design for years. My wife's Acadia Denali has the battery in the floor under one of the back fricking seats.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 3:55 pm to
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I had to jump a girl's Escape off



Pics?
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 4:00 pm to
I swore off GM when I had to spend $40 buying tools neccessary to remove the Oil Filter on my wife's GMC Terrain.

Who TF uses a 32mm socket to attach their oil filter?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 4:14 pm to
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Who TF uses a 32mm socket to attach their oil filter?


BMW iirc.

eta-Swearing off GM because of that will just cause you to buy some other tools for whatever other brand you buy.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 4:23 pm to
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eta-Swearing off GM because of that will just cause you to buy some other tools for whatever other brand you buy.



I had left out the fact the vehicle was a massive POS due to relevence

That vehicle bore more gremlins than Gizmo
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79794 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 4:34 pm to
All the poors in here driving around with only one battery in the car.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15816 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 4:41 pm to
Most American drivers would struggle to open the hood on their car much less swap out a battery. My neighbor's tool set is like 1 screwdriver, a pair of pliers, and a hammer.



Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3219 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 6:02 pm to
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Who TF uses a 32mm socket to attach their oil filter?


Ford also does.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 6:04 pm to
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and it's clear they intentionally engineered it to make simple repairs as hard as possible so you would take the car into Ford and pay them more


Every car company does that.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17460 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 6:34 pm to
I know everyone is hating on the Escape but I have been looking at them for my 16 year old new driver.

You can buy a 2013-4 Escape for around $6500. It’s a lot of technology and safety for the money.

To the OP, how does the car drive and handle? Is it reliable?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19957 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:05 pm to
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First off to change the battery you have to take like 5 things off the engine just to get to it, total pain in the arse.


Go change one in a BMW made in the last decade or so. Relatively easy until you start the car, but because you didn't replace the original battery with precisely the same battery, the car throws a tantrum and becomes undriveable. You have to buy a capable scan tool or pay a shop $340 to register the new battery with the car's control module. It has to know type, reserve capacity, etc. or it will try sending 17V from the alternator until something gives, usually the new battery...
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15310 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:08 pm to
Isn't the water pump run off of the cam shaft? Seems stupid.
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