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re: The Cost of Safetyism
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:36 am to Joshjrn
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:36 am to Joshjrn
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You know you can hover over it or long press it to see the destination, right? This is the only message board I’ve ever posted on that had an expectation that people would “warn” where the link went
I think it's more that there was absolutely no context to go along with the thread title. Just really lazy thread starting
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:36 am to Salmon
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The world didn’t get more dangerous. We got more afraid.
I disagree. The world is more dangerous now. I think we also got more afraid, but it is because of the way we reacted to the danger. We don't enforce our laws. We don't punish those guilty of crimes. If we actually punished and enforced our laws then people wouldn't feel afraid.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:37 am to LemmyLives
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In England data shows that in 1971, 86% of primary-age children traveled home from school unaccompanied. By 1990, that had fallen to 35%. By 2010, it was 25%.
Back then they didn’t have to worry about “rape gangs” the government had imported from various third-world shitholes either.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:39 am to Ponchy Tiger
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I disagree
I'm sure you do.
Which is the entire point of the article in the OP.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:40 am to F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:41 am to UFFan
In Japan, they make 3 year old kids walk to school...they also don't have "culcha"...
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:47 am to UFFan
One factor is that neighborhood Karens are on a hair trigger and will call the cops on kids roaming around doing pretty much anything.
They got a phone and video camera in their pocket and a cadre of cameras watching anything that moves.
The latest trend is them nagging people on nextdoor and calling the cops about kids on e-bikes / minibikes.
They got a phone and video camera in their pocket and a cadre of cameras watching anything that moves.
The latest trend is them nagging people on nextdoor and calling the cops about kids on e-bikes / minibikes.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:50 am to UFFan
Reminds me of all the bozos on here with Life360 on their phone so their wife can have a ‘peace of mind’ 
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:53 am to LemmyLives
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Today, 84% of 11 year olds aren’t allowed to leave their street, with 53% not even allowed to leave their front yard. For 14 year olds? 92% aren’t allowed to leave their neighborhood, and 55% can’t leave their streets.
as Gen X'r, I didn't experience this as a child. My kids however, do. mainly because we live on an island surrounded by major roads and I don't want my kids run over by some a-hole playing on his phone while driving. I am allowing my 15yr old room to explore other neighborhoods on his bike. I'd let him go farther if he didn't have to cross over Hwy 90. My 10yr old is allowed to explore the neighborhood. If he has to encroach any main roads, he can't.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:59 am to F1y0n7h3W4LL
Why are yall naked
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:04 am to tigeraddict
Same.
I'll say this for perspective. When I was a young kid, riding my bike, cars on the road (adults) were always mindful and cordial. They would go around or look out for kids on the bikes, because we were all over.
Drivers today run stop signs, text/drive, distracted - its a whole different ball game. Without technology packages in cars, we'd see more and more issues than we already do.
Hard to let my kids to riding around when subdivisions have become speed zones for teens and adults alike.
I'll say this for perspective. When I was a young kid, riding my bike, cars on the road (adults) were always mindful and cordial. They would go around or look out for kids on the bikes, because we were all over.
Drivers today run stop signs, text/drive, distracted - its a whole different ball game. Without technology packages in cars, we'd see more and more issues than we already do.
Hard to let my kids to riding around when subdivisions have become speed zones for teens and adults alike.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:05 am to tigeraddict
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as i kid i went everywhere by my self or friends my age. we lived in BR in the garden district until i went to 5th grade. My boundaries were the railroad tracks to the west, Government to the north, Acadian to the east and Broussard to the south. (all pre '84) 84 moves to Shenandoah, and basically all over the subdivision and white oak/lake of white oak
Grew up in Oak Hills in the 90s. Apex suburban childhood. By the time I was 11 I had free rein with Perkins being the northern border, highland to the south, Siegen to the east and bluebonnet to the west. If it was in that square we were there.
The part that trips me out is that the parents who suck now were the kids who understood the important of freedom at a young age. I don’t get it
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:08 am to Salmon
The world didn’t get more dangerous.
---yes it did.
We got more afraid.
--for good reason.
We didn't lock our house or car doors because they weren't going to be broken into. Try that today. Hitchhiking was common because it was safe. Try that today.
Hordes of wild teens didn't take over malls, shopping centers, or the middle of the streets. Yes, the world is more dangerous, also because judges keep letting criminals out while governments try to punish gun owners.
---yes it did.
We got more afraid.
--for good reason.
We didn't lock our house or car doors because they weren't going to be broken into. Try that today. Hitchhiking was common because it was safe. Try that today.
Hordes of wild teens didn't take over malls, shopping centers, or the middle of the streets. Yes, the world is more dangerous, also because judges keep letting criminals out while governments try to punish gun owners.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:09 am to Stat M Repairman
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One factor is that neighborhood Karens are on a hair trigger and will call the cops on kids roaming around doing pretty much anything. They got a phone and video camera in their pocket and a cadre of cameras watching anything that moves. The latest trend is them nagging people on nextdoor and calling the cops about kids on e-bikes / minibikes.
This is actually touched on in the article:
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And this leads to another legitimate fear. No one wants to be reported to child protective services. And it happens at an astonishing rate. According to a 2017 study, approximately 38% of all children will be investigated by CPS by the time they are 18. And the majority of those cases aren't about abuse. They're about supervisory neglect, children being somewhere without an adult.
Which ties into another thing preventing parents from lengthening the leash, judgment of others. If there’s one thing that’s skyrocketed over the last few decades it’s certainly judgment. With social media and other outlets, we walk around criticizing any and everyone. According to some recent data, 25% of parents admitted they had personally criticized another parent for not adequately supervising their child. So a quarter of parents are walking around as the enforcement mechanism.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:10 am to cypresstiger
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The world didn’t get more dangerous.
---yes it did.
We got more afraid.
--for good reason.
Provide actual data that refutes the OP.
Not just your perception.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:13 am to LemmyLives
When I was in 4th grade, my 2nd grade brother and I would walk about 2 miles to school everyday and back home afterwards. This was in New Orleans (uptown) in the late sixties. We were given a quarter to take the streetcar, but we would just pocket the money and walk.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:19 am to Salmon
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The world didn’t get more dangerous. We got more afraid.
America is more dangerous now than the 90s due to demographic change
The crime rate is lower because when a diverse kid stabs a non diverse kid at a track meet it isn’t a crime
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:37 am to WarriorTiger
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Hard to let my kids to riding around when subdivisions have become speed zones for teens and adults alike
Five kids were hit by cars at my son's junior high the first week of school on e-bikes/scooters. The police found that the kids were at fault in every single incident.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:49 am to Salmon
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Let your kids go.
Hear you. Really do.
Lead not with fear! Lead with knowledge.
If the registered sex offender map ain’t dense in your patch of the world, do it. If map lights up like Christmas tree, time for new patch. I could hardly believe the first time I did this when our kids were very young. Lived in “nice” place, too.
1970s are in rear view mirror. Bad parenting of past (some creating sex offenders) are killing good parenting today (let your kids go)…as one example.
Otherwise, get those kids independence, thinking and doing for themselves.
Just keep a watchful eye out for the pieces of chit humans in the world.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:27 pm to tigeraddict
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as i kid i went everywhere by my self or friends my age
Don't try that in a small town.
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A Georgia mother was arrested for reckless conduct after her 10-year-old son walked alone to a store, prompting debate over unclear laws on child independence and concerns about parental-rights overreach.
USA Today
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